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On the pun bit, I\'m sorry, but this is quite simply not correct. A pun is a deliberate play on words by the author with humorous intent. That\'s the standard definition, not a strict one. In fact it\'s one of the looser definitions; true punsters would eliminate puns that are created by spoonerisms etc. In this case, Iron and ironic just happen to be similar words. They were not created by the author (the conenction appears nowhere in the original story), it is not a deliberate play on words (the use of the two words is purely happenstance and does not appear in the novel)and was not made with humorous intent. So, this particular use cannot possibly be defined as a pun. Had the following exchange appeared in the novel:
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On the pun bit, I\\\'m sorry, but this is quite simply not correct. A pun is a deliberate play on words by the author with humorous intent. That\\\'s the standard definition, not a strict one. In fact it\\\'s one of the looser definitions; true punsters would eliminate puns that are created by spoonerisms etc. In this case, Iron and ironic just happen to be similar words. They were not created by the author (the connection appears nowhere in the original story), it is not a deliberate play on words (the use of the two words is purely happenstance and does not appear in the novel)and was not made with humorous intent. So, this particular use cannot possibly be defined as a pun. Had the following exchange appeared in the novel:
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Abigor: \\\"Belial defied the traditions of millenia. Daemons shall work only with bronze and iron is forbidden to us. Yet, at Palelabor, he chose to work with iron and for this blasphemy he was killed by a weapon of iron.
Petraeus: \\\"How ironic.\\\"
That would be the two words used in a punning context. Just because iron and ironic were used in comments on a book (rather than in the book itself) the coincidence is happenstance, it does not qualify as being a pun
There are puns in TSW:A; quite a lot of them. Early on, one example is \\\"Britannia waives the rules\\\" (a pun on the traditional song \\\"Britannia rules the waves\\\"). that would be a much better example although really strict punsters would class it as a spoonerism than a pun. I think it\\\'s a fair pun though.
Petraeus: \\\"How ironic.\\\"
That would be the two words used in a punning context. Just because iron and ironic were used in comments on a book (rather than in the book itself) the coincidence is happenstance, it does not qualify as being a pun
There are puns in TSW:A; quite a lot of them. Early on, one example is \\\"Britannia waives the rules\\\" (a pun on the traditional song \\\"Britannia rules the waves\\\"). that would be a much better example although really strict punsters would class it as a spoonerism than a pun. I think it\\\'s a fair pun though.
