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This might not be an example. Despite the dodgy trope name, The laconic of AmoralAttorney is \\\"Corrupt lawyer; normally a villain.\\\"
In any case this needs to be turned into a clear, detailed trope example written in a single voice. It is a single sub-example so it needs one double star under AmoralAttorney with the other sub-example getting its own. If the text is long and requires paragraph breaks, these can be added by putting \\\\\\\\ at the end of a line and \\\\\\\\ on the next line by itself.
* AmoralAttorney: Harvey Specter is a borderline case, and openly claims to care only about himself. (Mike later calls him on it.)
** It\\\'s worth noting that he really is amoral, not immoral, and clearly cares more for his clients than anything else but stays very strictly within the limits of the law. The dark side (or dickish side) of LawfulNeutral.
** On multiple occasions it is shown that Harvey will do everything he can to further his clients\\\' interests but will not allow an innocent person to be hurt. If professional ethics seem to make this impossible he will manipulate the situation such that the moral course of action is the one in the best interest of the client. He seems to have a very idealistic streak in him but is also extremely practical in how he accomplishes his goals.
*** He is deeply hurt when his actions on behalf of a client cause an innocent woman to be sent to prison. He manipulates the situation so that exonerating the woman is in his client\\\'s best interest, even though it will incriminate the client\\\'s company.
*** When the new CEO of a company makes a stupid and greedy decision that will put hundreds of people out of work he hatches a plan to have the CEO removed--he justifies it because his client is the \\\'\\\'company\\\'\\\' and not any one executive.
**** At least for this one, he can handwave his compassion by the fact that in the US, a corporation really is a legal entity. Also, he wrote the bylaws for the company but that\\\'s another matter.
*** He becomes incredibly upset with Louis when the latter takes the fact that he may have triggered a \\\'\\\'fatal heart attack\\\'\\\' as a badge of honor, then trying to weasel out of it when it turns out that the man was just a scapegoat. He also becomes very agitated when Louis accuses him of trying to claim all the credit for the successful case, something that it\\\'s shown he never even considered.
*** It also turns out that Harvey was mentored by the corrupt New York DA, and when Harvey discovered he was supressing evidence and tampering with witnesses, he left the prosecutor\\\'s office. Because of this, he recently discovered that he accidentally sent an innocent man to prison for a crime he did not commit (the DA suppressed the evidence that would have exonerated him) and is determined to get him out.
** Harvey is concerned only for himself. His reputation and direct reports he considers an extension of himself and will do everything in his power to make sure they represent him properly. His clients are also an extension of his reputation and will keep their long-term interests in mind. [[spoiler: he digs up dirt on all his clients (finds one cheating on his wife) so that he knows the worst to best defend them. He acts contrary to what the client demands to get what the client actually wants or needs]] in order to further himself and the firm
In any case this needs to be turned into a clear, detailed trope example written in a single voice. It is a single sub-example so it needs one double star under AmoralAttorney with the other sub-example getting its own. If the text is long and requires paragraph breaks, these can be added by putting \\\\\\\\ at the end of a line and \\\\\\\\ on the next line by itself.
* AmoralAttorney: Harvey Specter is a borderline case, and openly claims to care only about himself. (Mike later calls him on it.)
** It\\\'s worth noting that he really is amoral, not immoral, and clearly cares more for his clients than anything else but stays very strictly within the limits of the law. The dark side (or dickish side) of LawfulNeutral.
** On multiple occasions it is shown that Harvey will do everything he can to further his clients\\\' interests but will not allow an innocent person to be hurt. If professional ethics seem to make this impossible he will manipulate the situation such that the moral course of action is the one in the best interest of the client. He seems to have a very idealistic streak in him but is also extremely practical in how he accomplishes his goals.
*** He is deeply hurt when his actions on behalf of a client cause an innocent woman to be sent to prison. He manipulates the situation so that exonerating the woman is in his client\\\'s best interest, even though it will incriminate the client\\\'s company.
*** When the new CEO of a company makes a stupid and greedy decision that will put hundreds of people out of work he hatches a plan to have the CEO removed--he justifies it because his client is the \\\'\\\'company\\\'\\\' and not any one executive.
**** At least for this one, he can handwave his compassion by the fact that in the US, a corporation really is a legal entity. Also, he wrote the bylaws for the company but that\\\'s another matter.
*** He becomes incredibly upset with Louis when the latter takes the fact that he may have triggered a \\\'\\\'fatal heart attack\\\'\\\' as a badge of honor, then trying to weasel out of it when it turns out that the man was just a scapegoat. He also becomes very agitated when Louis accuses him of trying to claim all the credit for the successful case, something that it\\\'s shown he never even considered.
*** It also turns out that Harvey was mentored by the corrupt New York DA, and when Harvey discovered he was supressing evidence and tampering with witnesses, he left the prosecutor\\\'s office. Because of this, he recently discovered that he accidentally sent an innocent man to prison for a crime he did not commit (the DA suppressed the evidence that would have exonerated him) and is determined to get him out.
** Harvey is concerned only for himself. His reputation and direct reports he considers an extension of himself and will do everything in his power to make sure they represent him properly. His clients are also an extension of his reputation and will keep their long-term interests in mind. [[spoiler: he digs up dirt on all his clients (finds one cheating on his wife) so that he knows the worst to best defend them. He acts contrary to what the client demands to get what the client actually wants or needs]] in order to further himself and the firm
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This might not be an example. Despite the dodgy trope name, The laconic of AmoralAttorney is \
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This might not be an example. Despite the dodgy trope name, The laconic of AmoralAttorney is \\\"Corrupt lawyer; normally a villain.\\\"
In any case this needs to be turned into a clear, detailed trope example written in a single voice. It is a single sub-example so it needs one double star under AmoralAttorney with the other sub-example getting its own. If the text is long and requires paragraph breaks, these can be added by putting \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ at the end of a line and \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ on the next line by itself.
* AmoralAttorney: Harvey Specter is a borderline case, and openly claims to care only about himself. (Mike later calls him on it.)
** It\\\'s worth noting that he really is amoral, not immoral, and clearly cares more for his clients than anything else but stays very strictly within the limits of the law. The dark side (or dickish side) of LawfulNeutral.
** On multiple occasions it is shown that Harvey will do everything he can to further his clients\\\' interests but will not allow an innocent person to be hurt. If professional ethics seem to make this impossible he will manipulate the situation such that the moral course of action is the one in the best interest of the client. He seems to have a very idealistic streak in him but is also extremely practical in how he accomplishes his goals.
*** He is deeply hurt when his actions on behalf of a client cause an innocent woman to be sent to prison. He manipulates the situation so that exonerating the woman is in his client\\\'s best interest, even though it will incriminate the client\\\'s company.
*** When the new CEO of a company makes a stupid and greedy decision that will put hundreds of people out of work he hatches a plan to have the CEO removed--he justifies it because his client is the \\\'\\\'company\\\'\\\' and not any one executive.
**** At least for this one, he can handwave his compassion by the fact that in the US, a corporation really is a legal entity. Also, he wrote the bylaws for the company but that\\\'s another matter.
*** He becomes incredibly upset with Louis when the latter takes the fact that he may have triggered a \\\'\\\'fatal heart attack\\\'\\\' as a badge of honor, then trying to weasel out of it when it turns out that the man was just a scapegoat. He also becomes very agitated when Louis accuses him of trying to claim all the credit for the successful case, something that it\\\'s shown he never even considered.
*** It also turns out that Harvey was mentored by the corrupt New York DA, and when Harvey discovered he was supressing evidence and tampering with witnesses, he left the prosecutor\\\'s office. Because of this, he recently discovered that he accidentally sent an innocent man to prison for a crime he did not commit (the DA suppressed the evidence that would have exonerated him) and is determined to get him out.
** Harvey is concerned only for himself. His reputation and direct reports he considers an extension of himself and will do everything in his power to make sure they represent him properly. His clients are also an extension of his reputation and will keep their long-term interests in mind. [[spoiler: he digs up dirt on all his clients (finds one cheating on his wife) so that he knows the worst to best defend them. He acts contrary to what the client demands to get what the client actually wants or needs]] in order to further himself and the firm
In any case this needs to be turned into a clear, detailed trope example written in a single voice. It is a single sub-example so it needs one double star under AmoralAttorney with the other sub-example getting its own. If the text is long and requires paragraph breaks, these can be added by putting \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ at the end of a line and \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ on the next line by itself.
* AmoralAttorney: Harvey Specter is a borderline case, and openly claims to care only about himself. (Mike later calls him on it.)
** It\\\'s worth noting that he really is amoral, not immoral, and clearly cares more for his clients than anything else but stays very strictly within the limits of the law. The dark side (or dickish side) of LawfulNeutral.
** On multiple occasions it is shown that Harvey will do everything he can to further his clients\\\' interests but will not allow an innocent person to be hurt. If professional ethics seem to make this impossible he will manipulate the situation such that the moral course of action is the one in the best interest of the client. He seems to have a very idealistic streak in him but is also extremely practical in how he accomplishes his goals.
*** He is deeply hurt when his actions on behalf of a client cause an innocent woman to be sent to prison. He manipulates the situation so that exonerating the woman is in his client\\\'s best interest, even though it will incriminate the client\\\'s company.
*** When the new CEO of a company makes a stupid and greedy decision that will put hundreds of people out of work he hatches a plan to have the CEO removed--he justifies it because his client is the \\\'\\\'company\\\'\\\' and not any one executive.
**** At least for this one, he can handwave his compassion by the fact that in the US, a corporation really is a legal entity. Also, he wrote the bylaws for the company but that\\\'s another matter.
*** He becomes incredibly upset with Louis when the latter takes the fact that he may have triggered a \\\'\\\'fatal heart attack\\\'\\\' as a badge of honor, then trying to weasel out of it when it turns out that the man was just a scapegoat. He also becomes very agitated when Louis accuses him of trying to claim all the credit for the successful case, something that it\\\'s shown he never even considered.
*** It also turns out that Harvey was mentored by the corrupt New York DA, and when Harvey discovered he was supressing evidence and tampering with witnesses, he left the prosecutor\\\'s office. Because of this, he recently discovered that he accidentally sent an innocent man to prison for a crime he did not commit (the DA suppressed the evidence that would have exonerated him) and is determined to get him out.
** Harvey is concerned only for himself. His reputation and direct reports he considers an extension of himself and will do everything in his power to make sure they represent him properly. His clients are also an extension of his reputation and will keep their long-term interests in mind. [[spoiler: he digs up dirt on all his clients (finds one cheating on his wife) so that he knows the worst to best defend them. He acts contrary to what the client demands to get what the client actually wants or needs]] in order to further himself and the firm
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This might not be an example. Despite the dodgy trope name, The laconic of AmoralAttorney is \
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This might not be an example. Despite the dodgy trope name, The laconic of AmoralAttorney is \\\"Corrupt lawyer; normally a villain.\\\"
In any case this needs to be turned into a clear, detailed trope example written in a single voice.
* AmoralAttorney: Harvey Specter is a borderline case, and openly claims to care only about himself. (Mike later calls him on it.)
** It\\\'s worth noting that he really is amoral, not immoral, and clearly cares more for his clients than anything else but stays very strictly within the limits of the law. The dark side (or dickish side) of LawfulNeutral.
** On multiple occasions it is shown that Harvey will do everything he can to further his clients\\\' interests but will not allow an innocent person to be hurt. If professional ethics seem to make this impossible he will manipulate the situation such that the moral course of action is the one in the best interest of the client. He seems to have a very idealistic streak in him but is also extremely practical in how he accomplishes his goals.
*** He is deeply hurt when his actions on behalf of a client cause an innocent woman to be sent to prison. He manipulates the situation so that exonerating the woman is in his client\\\'s best interest, even though it will incriminate the client\\\'s company.
*** When the new CEO of a company makes a stupid and greedy decision that will put hundreds of people out of work he hatches a plan to have the CEO removed--he justifies it because his client is the \\\'\\\'company\\\'\\\' and not any one executive.
**** At least for this one, he can handwave his compassion by the fact that in the US, a corporation really is a legal entity. Also, he wrote the bylaws for the company but that\\\'s another matter.
*** He becomes incredibly upset with Louis when the latter takes the fact that he may have triggered a \\\'\\\'fatal heart attack\\\'\\\' as a badge of honor, then trying to weasel out of it when it turns out that the man was just a scapegoat. He also becomes very agitated when Louis accuses him of trying to claim all the credit for the successful case, something that it\\\'s shown he never even considered.
*** It also turns out that Harvey was mentored by the corrupt New York DA, and when Harvey discovered he was supressing evidence and tampering with witnesses, he left the prosecutor\\\'s office. Because of this, he recently discovered that he accidentally sent an innocent man to prison for a crime he did not commit (the DA suppressed the evidence that would have exonerated him) and is determined to get him out.
** Harvey is concerned only for himself. His reputation and direct reports he considers an extension of himself and will do everything in his power to make sure they represent him properly. His clients are also an extension of his reputation and will keep their long-term interests in mind. [[spoiler: he digs up dirt on all his clients (finds one cheating on his wife) so that he knows the worst to best defend them. He acts contrary to what the client demands to get what the client actually wants or needs]] in order to further himself and the firm
In any case this needs to be turned into a clear, detailed trope example written in a single voice.
* AmoralAttorney: Harvey Specter is a borderline case, and openly claims to care only about himself. (Mike later calls him on it.)
** It\\\'s worth noting that he really is amoral, not immoral, and clearly cares more for his clients than anything else but stays very strictly within the limits of the law. The dark side (or dickish side) of LawfulNeutral.
** On multiple occasions it is shown that Harvey will do everything he can to further his clients\\\' interests but will not allow an innocent person to be hurt. If professional ethics seem to make this impossible he will manipulate the situation such that the moral course of action is the one in the best interest of the client. He seems to have a very idealistic streak in him but is also extremely practical in how he accomplishes his goals.
*** He is deeply hurt when his actions on behalf of a client cause an innocent woman to be sent to prison. He manipulates the situation so that exonerating the woman is in his client\\\'s best interest, even though it will incriminate the client\\\'s company.
*** When the new CEO of a company makes a stupid and greedy decision that will put hundreds of people out of work he hatches a plan to have the CEO removed--he justifies it because his client is the \\\'\\\'company\\\'\\\' and not any one executive.
**** At least for this one, he can handwave his compassion by the fact that in the US, a corporation really is a legal entity. Also, he wrote the bylaws for the company but that\\\'s another matter.
*** He becomes incredibly upset with Louis when the latter takes the fact that he may have triggered a \\\'\\\'fatal heart attack\\\'\\\' as a badge of honor, then trying to weasel out of it when it turns out that the man was just a scapegoat. He also becomes very agitated when Louis accuses him of trying to claim all the credit for the successful case, something that it\\\'s shown he never even considered.
*** It also turns out that Harvey was mentored by the corrupt New York DA, and when Harvey discovered he was supressing evidence and tampering with witnesses, he left the prosecutor\\\'s office. Because of this, he recently discovered that he accidentally sent an innocent man to prison for a crime he did not commit (the DA suppressed the evidence that would have exonerated him) and is determined to get him out.
** Harvey is concerned only for himself. His reputation and direct reports he considers an extension of himself and will do everything in his power to make sure they represent him properly. His clients are also an extension of his reputation and will keep their long-term interests in mind. [[spoiler: he digs up dirt on all his clients (finds one cheating on his wife) so that he knows the worst to best defend them. He acts contrary to what the client demands to get what the client actually wants or needs]] in order to further himself and the firm
