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Now, okay I get it, FromSoftware games are deliberately ambiguous and there\'s a lot of room for interpretation, but that kind of argument goes both ways. We can\'t just use the interesting but unexplained detail that the Prince of Death\'s Staff also powers ghostflame spells to support the theory that they are all connected to the same Outer God, because for that we would also need to explain why the Wormfaces, Basilisks, and Tibia Mariners don\'t take damage from incantations that kills those who live in death even though they clearly relate to them.
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Now, okay I get it, FromSoftware games are deliberately ambiguous and there\\\'s a lot of room for interpretation, but that kind of argument goes both ways. We can\\\'t just use the interesting but unexplained detail that the Prince of Death\\\'s Staff also powers ghostflame spells to support the theory that they are all connected to the same Outer God, because then we would also need to explain why the Wormfaces, Basilisks, and Tibia Mariners don\\\'t take damage from incantations that kills those who live in death even though they clearly relate to them.
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Getting back to the topic of Destined Death, I think it\\\'s wrong to state so confidently that the rune of death, the deathroot, and the ghostflame all come from the ancient god of death, because it looks like we\\\'re the only ones who believe that. I checked both the [[https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Outer+Gods fextralife wiki]] and the [[https://eldenring.fandom.com/wiki/Outer_God fandom wiki]] and neither list Destined Death as an Outer God and both keep it separate from the god of the twinbird. Fextratlife even supports the argument that the description of the eclipse crest greatshield insinuates that the deathbirds and their God oppose Destined Death. And that\\\'s probably because the most supported interpretation of what Destined Death is that I\\\'ve been able to find is that it represents [[DeaderThanDead the true natural death of both body and soul and that there is no return from it]], and the god of the twinbird clearly relates to souls living on after their bodies die.
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Getting back to the topic of Destined Death, I think it\'s wrong to state so confidently that the rune of death, the deathroot, and the ghostflame all come from the ancient god of death, because it looks like we\'re the only ones who believe that. I checked both the [[https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Outer+Gods fextralife wiki]] and the [[https://eldenring.fandom.com/wiki/Outer_God fandom wiki]] and neither list Fated Death as an Outer God and both keep it separate from the god of the twinbird. Fextratlife even supports the argument that the description of the eclipse crest greatshield insinuates that the deathbirds and their God oppose Destined Death. And that\'s probably because the most supported interpretation of what Destined Death is that I\'ve been able to find is that it represents [[DeaderThanDead the true natural death of both body and soul and that there is no return from it]], and the god of the twinbird clearly relates to souls living on after their bodies die.
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