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Though maybe I\'ll change that part slightly. It is not so much \
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Though maybe I\\\'ll change that part slightly. It is not so much \\\"He is CE, therefore he can\\\'t ever do this\\\" mentality I have, it is much more \\\"He is happy to play along with the rules way too often to be this alignment. You can\\\'t call him CE while he does this constantly and not be wrong\\\"

Personally, the reason why I believe that that part makes sense is that to \\\'\\\'\\\'choose\\\'\\\'\\\' to work for someone else (at least effectively), would usually imply that the character can play along with the rules if they wanted to and make compromises in terms of not doing what they want to in the short terms in order to get what they want in the long term which kinda sounds more Neutral Evil. Remember that Chaotic characters \\\'\\\'\\\'resent\\\'\\\'\\\' authority figures so [[FridgeLogic why would they take orders from anyone else?]]

So in short, a sadistic, destructive, cowardly serial killer that is caught by the Lawful Evil Emperor, is blackmailed into working for them and is controlled only by fear rather than choosing to obey them may be Chaotic Evil. However a sadist that chooses to work for said emperor and is able to play along with the emperor\\\'s rules when it suits them to is not Chaotic at all!

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Anyways the reason I think that part should still stay somewhat is because of the fact that people seems to put in characters that are sadistic and/or crazy in this alignment without caring about whether or not they are truly free spirited characters. Insanity and Sadism are \'\'\'not\'\' Chaotic traits. \'\'\'Whim driven\'\'\' Insanity and Sadism is and frankly, I am personally ticked of when people add examples saying the character is CE with the logic that he is a sadist and/ or insane even if they are able to play along with the rules and is orderly about achieving their goals.
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Anyways the reason I think that part should still stay somewhat is because of the fact that people seems to put in characters that are sadistic and/or crazy in this alignment without caring about whether or not they are truly free spirited characters. Insanity and Sadism are \\\'\\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' Chaotic traits. \\\'\\\'\\\'Whim driven\\\'\\\'\\\' Insanity and Sadism are and frankly, I am personally ticked of when people add examples saying the character is CE with the logic that he is a sadist and/ or insane even if they are able to play along with the rules and is orderly about achieving their goals.
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Though maybe I\'ll change that part slightly. It is not so much \
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Though maybe I\\\'ll change that part slightly. It is not so much \\\"He is CE, therefore he can\\\'t ever do this\\\" mentality I have, it is much more \\\"He is happy to play along with the rules way too often to be this alignment. You can\\\'t call him CE while he does this constantly and not be wrong\\\"

Personally, the reason why I believe that that part makes sense is that to \\\'\\\'\\\'choose\\\'\\\'\\\' to work for someone else (at least effectively), would usually imply that the character can play along with the rules if they wanted to and make compromises in terms of not doing what they want to in the short terms in order to get what they want in the long term which kinda sounds more Neutral Evil. Remember that Chaotic characters \\\'\\\'\\\'resent\\\'\\\'\\\' authority figures so [[FridgeLogic why would they orders from anyone else?]]

So in short, a sadistic, destructive, cowardly serial killer that is caught by the Lawful Evil Emperor, is blackmailed into working for them and is controlled only by fear rather than choosing to obey them may be Chaotic Evil. However a sadist that chooses to work for said emperor and is able to play along with the emperor\\\'s rules when it suits them to is not Chaotic at all!

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