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I was thinking Types of Units should be expanded to include, well, the various types of units that people use nowadays.

Optimized Save tanks could all go under one category because they all have the same job of being a Save tank, but it\\\'s their capabilities that make them strong. Brave Hector and Ascended Idunn can both boast their lack of armour weakness, Robin, Rhea, and Fjorm have some form of DamageReduction and healing, with the latter even having Null C-Disrupt. It\\\'d be stuff like the Edelgards that would remain in the general folders because they can do more than Save tank, they can Galeforce like no other.

Same would go for the godsword archetype, your Legendary Dimitri and Fallen Ike and the like. Powerful, speedy infantry with DamageReduction but they\\\'re usually held back by the lack of innate Null Follow Up, which is probably the most important part for any godsword. Brave Marth does have that, but he\\\'s sort of held back by the fact that it\\\'s buff dependent (which stuff like Panic or Dull can disrupt). That\\\'d be why Ascended Mareeta (who I believe is currently one of the greatest ones) would still remain in the general folders because she has huge DamageReduction, but with Null Follow Up in her weapon, and a very easy activation of just existing (ie 25% HP), and her precharge and Special Spiral effect, she almost always has Vital Astra\\\'s effect active, but the precharging can also help with Galeforce.

Then the cavs (and some fliers) are a bit trickier, because we\\\'ve gotten some really, really good ones in the past while, including Brave Chrom and Brave Seliph. We could have a general \\\"units with built in Canto\\\" section, but there\\\'s also a lot of those too, and some of them can be devastatingly powerful. Having a section just for Canto itself and some units who can really do this is probably best, or maybe some kind of \\\"mounted units with Canto and/or some form of Null Follow Up\\\" built in? Since that applies to Brave Seliph, Legendary Xander, Legendary Nanna, and so on. Units like these all have some form of getting past follow up denial, which is the most important part for offensive Null Follow Up users.

Basically, I feel like we\\\'ve seen the same few archetypes of premium units over the past like, year or two. If you\\\'re a tank, you\\\'re most likely an armour with Save. If you\\\'re a speedy infantry, you most likely have DamageReduction and maybe something else, Null Follow Up if you\\\'re lucky. If you\\\'re a mounted unit, you probably have Canto and some method of getting past follow up denial, and you\\\'re most likely a LightningBruiser or a GlassCannon of some kind. It all sort of starts to blend together. Under the Types of Units folder would be examples of such units. Let\\\'s see if I remember post formatting. Something like:

* \\\'\\\'\\\'Save Tanks\\\'\\\'\\\'. [blah blah blah, description of Save skills and what they do]
** \\\'\\\'\\\'Ascended Idunn\\\'\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'\\\'Brave Hector\\\'\\\'\\\', because blah blah blah lack of armour weakness
** \\\'\\\'\\\'Fallen Rhea\\\'\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'\\\'Valentine\\\'s Robin\\\'\\\'\\\' because DamageReduction and healing
** \\\'\\\'\\\'Ascended Fjorm\\\'\\\'\\\' because Null C-Disrupt, DamageReduction, and healing, blah blah blah

* \\\'\\\'\\\'Dodge Tanks\\\'\\\'\\\'. [blah blah blah description of the Spd based Dodge skills and a few units that stand out with their capabilities]
** \\\'\\\'\\\'Legendary Dimitri\\\'\\\'\\\' because Atrocity and whatever

* \\\'\\\'\\\'Mounted powerhouses\\\'\\\'\\\'. [blah blah blah description of mounted units that either have Canto built in, half of or full Null Follow up, or other skills that are accessible on a unit type that normally can\\\'t get it]
** \\\'\\\'\\\'Brave Seliph\\\'\\\'\\\', because Miracle, 4 Mov, so on and so on

With more details, obviously, but stuff like that.

If there are any units that I feel like at the very least set the standard for their role or class and deserve to be in the general folders, right now, it\\\'s Ascended Mareeta, Duo Chrom, and Duo Thorr at the very least, owing to their unique effects, capabilities, and usefulness in any mode. I\\\'m sure another super swordmaster will eventually take Ascended Mareeta\\\'s place, but I think she stands at the top as of right now, while Duo Chrom and Duo Thorr are unlike anything we\\\'ve seen and have proven themselves (with Chrom\\\'s Special charging Assist and power and Grand Strategy, while Thorr can \\\'\\\'remove\\\'\\\' buffs and also kind of AoE spam, but also support with Worldbreaker and her weapon\\\'s Exposure and Stall effects).

tl;dr: I would consolidate the Types of Units section to try and encapsulate the few archetypes of strong units we\\\'ve got, and the units in the regular folders are ones that can break the mold, set the standard for their type, are unique in their capabilities, and/or are just that damn good in any mode. I believe Ascended Mareeta, Duo Chrom, and Duo Thorr to be such units.
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Are we \'\'sure\'\' that Fiona\'s skin is a pirate? It doesn\'t look like any pirate I\'ve ever seen.
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Should we update Fiona\\\'s skin? She changed it again during \\\'\\\'Ya Dead, Ya Dead 3\\\'\\\' and I\\\'m having trouble identifying it.
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