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Now that I\'ve had some rest I feel like I can properly discuss this. While the page does need pruning, some of the examples you gave as needing being cut reek of \
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Now that I\\\'ve had some rest I feel like I can properly discuss this. While the page does need pruning, some of the examples you gave as needing being cut come across as being \\\"because I said so\\\".
First of all, \\\'\\\'Awakening\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'Fates\\\'\\\' examples can be put back on this page as they won\\\'t be big enough to justify having their own page. While I agree that there should be a disclaimer before \\\'\\\'Awakening\\\'\\\' onwards, it should be less condescending in tone. There are things in both games and \\\'\\\'Heroes\\\'\\\' that count as radar-passing, but it\\\'s best to start afresh with these three.
As for \\\'\\\'Three Houses\\\'\\\', this is where things get less clear. You do link PEGI, but it is the TL;DR version of what the ratings mean; I think the main point of confusion has come about because the \\\"Sex\\\" label is not on PAL versions of the game\\\'s box. Here is what the Sex label says:
\\\"This content descriptor \\\'\\\'\\\'can\\\'\\\'\\\' accompany a PEGI 12 rating if the game includes sexual posturing or innuendo, a PEGI 16 rating if there is erotic nudity or sexual intercourse without visible genitals or a PEGI 18 rating if there is explicit sexual activity in the game. Depictions of nudity in a non-sexual content do not require a specific age rating, and this descriptor would not be necessary.\\\"
I have the box next to me, and it only has labels for Violence, Bad Language and In-Game Purchases.
Furthermore, here is what PEGI has to say about why it gave \\\'\\\'Three Houses\\\'\\\' a 12:
\\\"This game has been rated PEGI 12 for depictions of \\\'\\\'\\\'non-realistic looking violence\\\'\\\'\\\' towards human-like/animal-like characters, depictions of \\\'\\\'\\\'realistic violence of a minor nature towards human-like characters\\\'\\\'\\\', and use of \\\'\\\'\\\'mild bad language\\\'\\\'\\\'. Not suitable for persons under 12 years of age.\\\"
While I don\\\'t 100% agree with some of the examples, I think a lot of innuendo was added to this page as the game was rated 12 for violent content, and not for its mild sexual content. This would mean that from a European standpoint, the suggestive themes count as radar-passing as it wasn\\\'t the thing that gave the game a 12 rating.
On the other hand, ESRB gave it a T for \\\"Blood, Suggestive Themes and Violence\\\". This would mean from an American standpoint, it wouldn\\\'t count as radar-passing.
Furthermore, @/Kazmahu said that it was rated M in Australia, and argued that for that reason Three Houses shouldn\\\'t be mentioned at all on this page. As a compromise between them and @/bigbossdiego, it was agreed to mention the difference in the ratings it got around the world while listing the stuff that passed the T and 12 radars.
Now that I have got this out the way, I\\\'ll be able to explain which specific examples you gave for being cut that I disagree with.
First of all, \\\'\\\'Awakening\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'Fates\\\'\\\' examples can be put back on this page as they won\\\'t be big enough to justify having their own page. While I agree that there should be a disclaimer before \\\'\\\'Awakening\\\'\\\' onwards, it should be less condescending in tone. There are things in both games and \\\'\\\'Heroes\\\'\\\' that count as radar-passing, but it\\\'s best to start afresh with these three.
As for \\\'\\\'Three Houses\\\'\\\', this is where things get less clear. You do link PEGI, but it is the TL;DR version of what the ratings mean; I think the main point of confusion has come about because the \\\"Sex\\\" label is not on PAL versions of the game\\\'s box. Here is what the Sex label says:
\\\"This content descriptor \\\'\\\'\\\'can\\\'\\\'\\\' accompany a PEGI 12 rating if the game includes sexual posturing or innuendo, a PEGI 16 rating if there is erotic nudity or sexual intercourse without visible genitals or a PEGI 18 rating if there is explicit sexual activity in the game. Depictions of nudity in a non-sexual content do not require a specific age rating, and this descriptor would not be necessary.\\\"
I have the box next to me, and it only has labels for Violence, Bad Language and In-Game Purchases.
Furthermore, here is what PEGI has to say about why it gave \\\'\\\'Three Houses\\\'\\\' a 12:
\\\"This game has been rated PEGI 12 for depictions of \\\'\\\'\\\'non-realistic looking violence\\\'\\\'\\\' towards human-like/animal-like characters, depictions of \\\'\\\'\\\'realistic violence of a minor nature towards human-like characters\\\'\\\'\\\', and use of \\\'\\\'\\\'mild bad language\\\'\\\'\\\'. Not suitable for persons under 12 years of age.\\\"
While I don\\\'t 100% agree with some of the examples, I think a lot of innuendo was added to this page as the game was rated 12 for violent content, and not for its mild sexual content. This would mean that from a European standpoint, the suggestive themes count as radar-passing as it wasn\\\'t the thing that gave the game a 12 rating.
On the other hand, ESRB gave it a T for \\\"Blood, Suggestive Themes and Violence\\\". This would mean from an American standpoint, it wouldn\\\'t count as radar-passing.
Furthermore, @/Kazmahu said that it was rated M in Australia, and argued that for that reason Three Houses shouldn\\\'t be mentioned at all on this page. As a compromise between them and @/bigbossdiego, it was agreed to mention the difference in the ratings it got around the world while listing the stuff that passed the T and 12 radars.
Now that I have got this out the way, I\\\'ll be able to explain which specific examples you gave for being cut that I disagree with.
