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In looking over the comments left so far, I\'m seeing a lot of blending of interpretations and I want to qualify that my focus is on the specific wording of the Aesop: \
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In looking over the comments left so far, I\\\'m seeing a lot of blending of interpretations and I want to qualify that my focus is on the specific wording of the Aesop: \\\"Anyone can wear the mask\\\".
Indeed, how this phrase is interpreted has a big effect on how relevant the BrokenAesop trope is.
One interpretation, and a pretty common one here is that \\\"Anyone can wear the mask\\\" means that anyone can do heroic things and gender, race, or age are not barriers to heroism. This is essentially a true Aesop and forms the basis of many, many character development arcs in story-telling. It\\\'s a noble and empowering thought.
However, in regards to the film, it\\\'s not really an Aesop that is actively shown to a significant degree. As mentioned earlier the only two muggles featured are Miles\\\' father and Aunt May (Rio is shown helping a patient evacuate the hospital, but as a nurse it\\\'s kinda her job to do so).
So the film doesn\\\'t really do a lot to show that everyone can be a hero. Miles character development arc is textured and doesn\\\'t focus primarily on whether he\\\'s doing heroic acts because it\\\'s also focusing on his origin story, his tension between \\\"great expectations/no expectations\\\", how he is dealing with a superhero mantle that is suddenly thrust upon him, the realization that his uncle is in service to the bad guys, and many others.
My feeling is that this interpretation is the one most open to the BrokenAesop trope simply because there aren\\\'t a lot of characters doing heroic things outside of the Spider-Gang.
Another interpretation of \\\"Anyone can wear the mask\\\" deals with anyone being able to take on the role of Spider-Man. Obviously this interpretation requires winning the \\\"radioactive spider lottery\\\" and is almost a meta quality. But this interpretation says that if a person gets spider-powers and if that person is willing to guide themselves more or less by the manta \\\"With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility\\\" and they adhere to the belief that no matter how many times they are knocked down, they will always get back up, then it doesn\\\'t matter what face is under that mask... a young white blond male, an Afro-Latino teenager, a girl of Japanese descent or even an anthropomorphic pig. Any gender, race, or age can wear that mask.
This interpretation is supported well by the movie, both with the diversity shown within the Spider-Gang as well as within Miles own hero\\\'s journey to wear the mask himself.
I think the first interpretation could lend itself to a BrokenAesop entry but I\\\'m not wedded to the idea. The second interpretation is more or less what Miles journey is about.
I\\\'d rather not take this out to Ask the Tropers or to the Forums simply because I feel it would mushroom into a free-for-all with so many opinions, interpretations, arguments and counter-arguments that would be exhausting to sift through. I\\\'d rather just let the BrokenAesop entry remain deleted than expend that much energy on a point that\\\'s not really that important.
Indeed, how this phrase is interpreted has a big effect on how relevant the BrokenAesop trope is.
One interpretation, and a pretty common one here is that \\\"Anyone can wear the mask\\\" means that anyone can do heroic things and gender, race, or age are not barriers to heroism. This is essentially a true Aesop and forms the basis of many, many character development arcs in story-telling. It\\\'s a noble and empowering thought.
However, in regards to the film, it\\\'s not really an Aesop that is actively shown to a significant degree. As mentioned earlier the only two muggles featured are Miles\\\' father and Aunt May (Rio is shown helping a patient evacuate the hospital, but as a nurse it\\\'s kinda her job to do so).
So the film doesn\\\'t really do a lot to show that everyone can be a hero. Miles character development arc is textured and doesn\\\'t focus primarily on whether he\\\'s doing heroic acts because it\\\'s also focusing on his origin story, his tension between \\\"great expectations/no expectations\\\", how he is dealing with a superhero mantle that is suddenly thrust upon him, the realization that his uncle is in service to the bad guys, and many others.
My feeling is that this interpretation is the one most open to the BrokenAesop trope simply because there aren\\\'t a lot of characters doing heroic things outside of the Spider-Gang.
Another interpretation of \\\"Anyone can wear the mask\\\" deals with anyone being able to take on the role of Spider-Man. Obviously this interpretation requires winning the \\\"radioactive spider lottery\\\" and is almost a meta quality. But this interpretation says that if a person gets spider-powers and if that person is willing to guide themselves more or less by the manta \\\"With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility\\\" and they adhere to the belief that no matter how many times they are knocked down, they will always get back up, then it doesn\\\'t matter what face is under that mask... a young white blond male, an Afro-Latino teenager, a girl of Japanese descent or even an anthropomorphic pig. Any gender, race, or age can wear that mask.
This interpretation is supported well by the movie, both with the diversity shown within the Spider-Gang as well as within Miles own hero\\\'s journey to wear the mask himself.
I think the first interpretation could lend itself to a BrokenAesop entry but I\\\'m not wedded to the idea. The second interpretation is more or less what Miles journey is about.
I\\\'d rather not take this out to Ask the Tropers or to the Forums simply because I feel it would mushroom into a free-for-all with so many opinions, interpretations, arguments and counter-arguments that would be exhausting to sift through. I\\\'d rather just let the BrokenAesop entry remain deleted than expend that much energy on a point that\\\'s not really that important.
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In looking over the comments left so far, I\'m seeing a lot of blending of interpretations and I want to qualify that my focus is on the specific wording of the Aesop: \
to:
In looking over the comments left so far, I\\\'m seeing a lot of blending of interpretations and I want to qualify that my focus is on the specific wording of the Aesop: \\\"Anyone can wear the mask\\\".
Indeed, how this phrase is interpreted has a big effect on how relevant the BrokenAesop trope is.
One interpretation, and a pretty common one here is that \\\"Anyone can wear the mask\\\" means that anyone can do heroic things and gender, race, or age are not barriers to heroism. This is essentially a true Aesop and forms the basis of many, many character development arcs in story-telling. It\\\'s a noble and empowering thought.
However, in regards to the film, it\\\'s not really an Aesop that is actively shown to a significant degree. As mentioned earlier the only two muggles featured are Miles\\\' father and Aunt May (Rio is shown helping a patient evacuate the hospital, but as a nurse it\\\'s kinda her job to do so).
So the film doesn\\\'t really do a lot to show that everyone can be a hero. Miles character development arc is textured and doesn\\\'t focus primarily on whether he\\\'s doing heroic acts because it\\\'s also focusing on his origin story, his tension between \\\"great expectations/no expectations\\\", how he is dealing with a superhero mantle that is suddenly thrust upon him, the realization that his uncle is in service to the bad guys, and many others.
My feeling is that this interpretation is the one most open to the BrokenAesop trope simply because there aren\\\'t a lot of characters doing heroic things outside of the Spider-Gang.
Another interpretation of \\\"Anyone can wear the mask\\\" deals with anyone being able to take on the role of Spider-Man. Obviously this interpretation requires winning the \\\"radioactive spider lottery\\\" and is almost a meta quality. But this interpretation says that if a person gets spider-powers and if that person is willing to guide themselves more or less by the manta \\\"With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility\\\" and they adhere to the belief that no matter how many times they are knocked down, they will always get back up, then it doesn\\\'t matter what face is under that mask... a young white blond male, an Afro-Latino teenager, a girl of Japanese descent or even an anthropomorphic pig. Any gender, race, or age can wear that mask.
This interpretation is supported well by the movie, both with the diversity shown within the Spider-Gang as well as within Miles own hero\\\'s journey to wear the mask himself.
I think the first interpretation could lend itself to a BrokenAesop entry but I\\\'m not wedded to the idea. The second interpretation is more or less what Miles journey is about.
I\\\'d rather not take this out to Ask the Tropers or to the Forums simply because I feel it would mushroom into a free-for-all with so many opinions, interpretations, arguments and counter-arguments that would be exhausting to sift through. I\\\'d rather just let the BrokenAesop entry remain deleted than expand that much energy on a not that important point.
Indeed, how this phrase is interpreted has a big effect on how relevant the BrokenAesop trope is.
One interpretation, and a pretty common one here is that \\\"Anyone can wear the mask\\\" means that anyone can do heroic things and gender, race, or age are not barriers to heroism. This is essentially a true Aesop and forms the basis of many, many character development arcs in story-telling. It\\\'s a noble and empowering thought.
However, in regards to the film, it\\\'s not really an Aesop that is actively shown to a significant degree. As mentioned earlier the only two muggles featured are Miles\\\' father and Aunt May (Rio is shown helping a patient evacuate the hospital, but as a nurse it\\\'s kinda her job to do so).
So the film doesn\\\'t really do a lot to show that everyone can be a hero. Miles character development arc is textured and doesn\\\'t focus primarily on whether he\\\'s doing heroic acts because it\\\'s also focusing on his origin story, his tension between \\\"great expectations/no expectations\\\", how he is dealing with a superhero mantle that is suddenly thrust upon him, the realization that his uncle is in service to the bad guys, and many others.
My feeling is that this interpretation is the one most open to the BrokenAesop trope simply because there aren\\\'t a lot of characters doing heroic things outside of the Spider-Gang.
Another interpretation of \\\"Anyone can wear the mask\\\" deals with anyone being able to take on the role of Spider-Man. Obviously this interpretation requires winning the \\\"radioactive spider lottery\\\" and is almost a meta quality. But this interpretation says that if a person gets spider-powers and if that person is willing to guide themselves more or less by the manta \\\"With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility\\\" and they adhere to the belief that no matter how many times they are knocked down, they will always get back up, then it doesn\\\'t matter what face is under that mask... a young white blond male, an Afro-Latino teenager, a girl of Japanese descent or even an anthropomorphic pig. Any gender, race, or age can wear that mask.
This interpretation is supported well by the movie, both with the diversity shown within the Spider-Gang as well as within Miles own hero\\\'s journey to wear the mask himself.
I think the first interpretation could lend itself to a BrokenAesop entry but I\\\'m not wedded to the idea. The second interpretation is more or less what Miles journey is about.
I\\\'d rather not take this out to Ask the Tropers or to the Forums simply because I feel it would mushroom into a free-for-all with so many opinions, interpretations, arguments and counter-arguments that would be exhausting to sift through. I\\\'d rather just let the BrokenAesop entry remain deleted than expand that much energy on a not that important point.
Changed line(s) 1 from:
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In looking over the comments left so far, I want to qualify that my focus of discussion is on the specific wording of the Aesop: \
to:
In looking over the comments left so far, I\\\'m seeing a lot of blending of interpretations and I want to qualify that my focus is on the specific wording of the Aesop: \\\"Anyone can wear the mask\\\".
Indeed, how this phrase is interpreted has a big effect on how relevant the BrokenAesop trope is.
One interpretation, and a pretty common one here is that \\\"Anyone can wear the mask\\\" means that anyone can do heroic things and gender, race, or age are not barriers to heroism. This is essentially a true Aesop and forms the basis of many, many character development arcs in story-telling. It\\\'s a noble and empowering thought.
However, in regards to the film, it\\\'s not really an Aesop that is actively shown to a significant degree. As mentioned earlier the only two muggles featured are Miles\\\' father and Aunt May (Rio is shown helping a patient evacuate the hospital, but as a nurse it\\\'s kinda her job to do so).
So the film doesn\\\'t really do a lot to show that everyone can be a hero. Miles character development arc is textured and doesn\\\'t focus primarily on whether he\\\'s doing heroic acts because it\\\'s also focusing on his origin story, his tension between \\\"great expectations/no expectations\\\", how he is dealing with a superhero mantle that is suddenly thrust upon him, the realization that his uncle is in service to the bad guys, and many others.
My feeling is that this interpretation is the one most open to the BrokenAesop trope simply because there aren\\\'t a lot of characters doing heroic things outside of the Spider-Gang.
Another interpretation of \\\"Anyone can wear the mask\\\" deals with anyone being able to take on the role of Spider-Man. Obviously this interpretation requires winning the \\\"radioactive spider lottery\\\" and is almost a meta quality. But this interpretation says that if a person gets spider-powers and if that person is willing to guide themselves more or less by the manta \\\"With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility\\\" and they adhere to the belief that no matter how many times they are knocked down, they will always get back up, then it doesn\\\'t matter what face is under that mask... a young white blond male, an Afro-Latino teenager, a girl of Japanese descent or even an anthropomorphic pig. Any gender, race, or age can wear that mask.
This interpretation is supported well by the movie, both with the diversity shown within the Spider-Gang as well as within Miles own hero\\\'s journey.
I think the first interpretation could lend itself to a BrokenAesop entry but I\\\'m not wedded to the idea. The second interpretation is more or less what Miles journey is about.
I\\\'d rather not take this out to Ask the Tropers or to the Forums simply because I feel it would mushroom into a free-for-all with so many opinions, interpretations, arguments and counter-arguments that would be exhausting to sift through. I\\\'d rather just let the BrokenAesop entry remain deleted than expand that much energy on a not that important point.
Indeed, how this phrase is interpreted has a big effect on how relevant the BrokenAesop trope is.
One interpretation, and a pretty common one here is that \\\"Anyone can wear the mask\\\" means that anyone can do heroic things and gender, race, or age are not barriers to heroism. This is essentially a true Aesop and forms the basis of many, many character development arcs in story-telling. It\\\'s a noble and empowering thought.
However, in regards to the film, it\\\'s not really an Aesop that is actively shown to a significant degree. As mentioned earlier the only two muggles featured are Miles\\\' father and Aunt May (Rio is shown helping a patient evacuate the hospital, but as a nurse it\\\'s kinda her job to do so).
So the film doesn\\\'t really do a lot to show that everyone can be a hero. Miles character development arc is textured and doesn\\\'t focus primarily on whether he\\\'s doing heroic acts because it\\\'s also focusing on his origin story, his tension between \\\"great expectations/no expectations\\\", how he is dealing with a superhero mantle that is suddenly thrust upon him, the realization that his uncle is in service to the bad guys, and many others.
My feeling is that this interpretation is the one most open to the BrokenAesop trope simply because there aren\\\'t a lot of characters doing heroic things outside of the Spider-Gang.
Another interpretation of \\\"Anyone can wear the mask\\\" deals with anyone being able to take on the role of Spider-Man. Obviously this interpretation requires winning the \\\"radioactive spider lottery\\\" and is almost a meta quality. But this interpretation says that if a person gets spider-powers and if that person is willing to guide themselves more or less by the manta \\\"With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility\\\" and they adhere to the belief that no matter how many times they are knocked down, they will always get back up, then it doesn\\\'t matter what face is under that mask... a young white blond male, an Afro-Latino teenager, a girl of Japanese descent or even an anthropomorphic pig. Any gender, race, or age can wear that mask.
This interpretation is supported well by the movie, both with the diversity shown within the Spider-Gang as well as within Miles own hero\\\'s journey.
I think the first interpretation could lend itself to a BrokenAesop entry but I\\\'m not wedded to the idea. The second interpretation is more or less what Miles journey is about.
I\\\'d rather not take this out to Ask the Tropers or to the Forums simply because I feel it would mushroom into a free-for-all with so many opinions, interpretations, arguments and counter-arguments that would be exhausting to sift through. I\\\'d rather just let the BrokenAesop entry remain deleted than expand that much energy on a not that important point.
