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I have to ask - why does Cyril include a link to \
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I have to ask - why does Cyril include a link to \\\"Maybe Ever After\\\" with Shamir and reference the \\\"ambiguous nature\\\" of their relationship in their ending? It seems wholly inconsistent with how Catherine/Shamir are treated given that
(1) Cyril and Shamir have no romantic text in their ending - in fact, their paired ending only talks about how they were Robin Hood types, while Catherine and Shamir\\\'s at least references them being on a \\\"lifelong journey\\\" and inseparable (and as I mentioned above, the Japanese translation of their A+ makes them winding up in Dagda more meaningful). Given that the heterosexual endings are much more explicit about romance than the same-sex ones (i.e. specifically reference kids/marriage rather than say \\\"person she loved the most\\\" like in Dorothea/Petra)...
(2) The entire idea that Cyril and Shamir might be a romantic pairing is based on one line/outburst from Cyril and literally nothing else. There\\\'s no indication Shamir views him as anything but her student/mentee and her reaction is to basically tell him \\\"let\\\'s both forget you ever said this\\\" while he blushes. Every other interaction with him is a mentor/mentee one and even the entry here acknowledges it.
Again - to compare with Catherine/Shamir...even if you assume Shamir\\\'s proposal was joking (which is editorializing, not simply reading the text as the standard is supposed to be), their A+ support is all about them finally admitting how much they mean to each other/making comparisons to dead former loves/partners/talking about lifelong commitments, etc. and the Japanese translation is even more suggestive (Shamir talking about being \\\"more than partners\\\" and the Dagda stuff).
I\\\'m confused as to why the pairing with the actual meaningful romantic subtext and an actual proposal/suggestion to wed (even if you decide to discount it) is stated as firmly platonic/non-romantic while another with a single line of dialogue that is then seemingly rejected is treated as ambiguous.
(1) Cyril and Shamir have no romantic text in their ending - in fact, their paired ending only talks about how they were Robin Hood types, while Catherine and Shamir\\\'s at least references them being on a \\\"lifelong journey\\\" and inseparable (and as I mentioned above, the Japanese translation of their A+ makes them winding up in Dagda more meaningful). Given that the heterosexual endings are much more explicit about romance than the same-sex ones (i.e. specifically reference kids/marriage rather than say \\\"person she loved the most\\\" like in Dorothea/Petra)...
(2) The entire idea that Cyril and Shamir might be a romantic pairing is based on one line/outburst from Cyril and literally nothing else. There\\\'s no indication Shamir views him as anything but her student/mentee and her reaction is to basically tell him \\\"let\\\'s both forget you ever said this\\\" while he blushes. Every other interaction with him is a mentor/mentee one and even the entry here acknowledges it.
Again - to compare with Catherine/Shamir...even if you assume Shamir\\\'s proposal was joking (which is editorializing, not simply reading the text as the standard is supposed to be), their A+ support is all about them finally admitting how much they mean to each other/making comparisons to dead former loves/partners/talking about lifelong commitments, etc. and the Japanese translation is even more suggestive (Shamir talking about being \\\"more than partners\\\" and the Dagda stuff).
I\\\'m confused as to why the pairing with the actual meaningful romantic subtext and an actual proposal/suggestion to wed (even if you decide to discount it) is stated as firmly platonic/non-romantic while another with a single line of dialogue that is then seemingly rejected is treated as ambiguous.
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I have to ask - why does Cyril include a link to \
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I have to ask - why does Cyril include a link to \\\"Maybe Ever After\\\" with Shamir and reference the \\\"ambiguous nature\\\" of their relationship in their ending? It seems wholly inconsistent with how Catherine/Shamir are treated given that
(1) Cyril and Shamir have no romantic text in their ending - in fact, their paired ending only talks about how they were Robin Hood types, while Catherine and Shamir\\\'s at least references them being on a \\\"lifelong journey\\\" and inseparable (and as I mentioned above, the Japanese translation of their A+ makes them winding up in Dagda more meaningful). Given that the heterosexual endings are much more explicit about romance than the same-sex ones (i.e. specifically reference kids/marriage rather than say \\\"person she loved the most\\\" like in Dorothea/Petra)...
(2) The entire idea that Cyril and Shamir might be a romantic pairing is based on one line/outburst from Cyril and literally nothing else. There\\\'s no indication Shamir views him as anything but her student/mentee and her reaction is to basically tell him \\\"let\\\'s both forget you ever said this\\\" while he blushes. Every other interaction with him is a mentor/mentee one and even the entry here acknowledges it.
Again - to compare with Catherine/Shamir...even if you assume Shamir\\\'s proposal was joking (which is editorializing, not simply reading the text as the standard is supposed to be), their A+ support is all about them finally admitting how much they mean to each other/making comparisons to dead former loves/partners/talking about lifelong commitments, etc. and the Japanese translation is even more suggestive (Shamir talking about being \\\"more than partners\\\" and the Dagda stuff).
I\\\'m confused as to why the pairing with the actual meaningful romantic subtext (even if you\\\'re not convinced by it) is stated as firmly platonic/non-romantic while another with a single line of dialogue that is then seemingly rejected is treated as ambiguous.
(1) Cyril and Shamir have no romantic text in their ending - in fact, their paired ending only talks about how they were Robin Hood types, while Catherine and Shamir\\\'s at least references them being on a \\\"lifelong journey\\\" and inseparable (and as I mentioned above, the Japanese translation of their A+ makes them winding up in Dagda more meaningful). Given that the heterosexual endings are much more explicit about romance than the same-sex ones (i.e. specifically reference kids/marriage rather than say \\\"person she loved the most\\\" like in Dorothea/Petra)...
(2) The entire idea that Cyril and Shamir might be a romantic pairing is based on one line/outburst from Cyril and literally nothing else. There\\\'s no indication Shamir views him as anything but her student/mentee and her reaction is to basically tell him \\\"let\\\'s both forget you ever said this\\\" while he blushes. Every other interaction with him is a mentor/mentee one and even the entry here acknowledges it.
Again - to compare with Catherine/Shamir...even if you assume Shamir\\\'s proposal was joking (which is editorializing, not simply reading the text as the standard is supposed to be), their A+ support is all about them finally admitting how much they mean to each other/making comparisons to dead former loves/partners/talking about lifelong commitments, etc. and the Japanese translation is even more suggestive (Shamir talking about being \\\"more than partners\\\" and the Dagda stuff).
I\\\'m confused as to why the pairing with the actual meaningful romantic subtext (even if you\\\'re not convinced by it) is stated as firmly platonic/non-romantic while another with a single line of dialogue that is then seemingly rejected is treated as ambiguous.
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I have to ask - why does Cyril include a link to \
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I have to ask - why does Cyril include a link to \\\"Maybe Ever After\\\" with Shamir and reference the \\\"ambiguous nature\\\" of their relationship in their ending? It seems wholly inconsistent with how Catherine/Shamir are treated given that
(1) Cyril and Shamir have no romantic text in their ending - in fact, their paired ending only talks about how they were Robin Hood types, while Catherine and Shamir\\\'s at least references them being on a \\\"lifelong journey\\\" and inseparable (and as I mentioned above, the Japanese translation of their A+ makes them winding up in Dagda more meaningful). Given that the heterosexual endings are much more explicit about romance than the same-sex ones (i.e. specifically reference kids/marriage rather than say \\\"person she loved the most\\\" like in Dorothea/Petra)...
(2) The entire idea that Cyril and Shamir might be a romantic pairing is based on one line/outburst from Cyril and literally nothing else. There\\\'s no indication Shamir views him as anything but her student/mentee and her reaction is to basically tell him \\\"let\\\'s both forget you ever said this\\\" while he blushes. Every other interaction with him is a mentor/mentee one and even the entry here acknowledges it.
Again - to compare with Catherine/Shamir...even if you assume Shamir\\\'s proposal was joking (which is editorializing, not simply reading the text as the standard is supposed to be), their A+ support is all about them finally admitting how much they mean to each other/making comparisons to dead former loves/partners/talking about lifelong commitments, etc. and the Japanese translation is even more suggestive (Shamir talking about being \\\"more than partners\\\" and the Dagda stuff).
I\\\'m confused as to why the pairing with the actual meaningful romantic subtext (even if you\\\'re not convinced by it) is stated as firmly platonic/non-romantic while another with a single line of dialogue that is then rejected is treated as ambiguous.
(1) Cyril and Shamir have no romantic text in their ending - in fact, their paired ending only talks about how they were Robin Hood types, while Catherine and Shamir\\\'s at least references them being on a \\\"lifelong journey\\\" and inseparable (and as I mentioned above, the Japanese translation of their A+ makes them winding up in Dagda more meaningful). Given that the heterosexual endings are much more explicit about romance than the same-sex ones (i.e. specifically reference kids/marriage rather than say \\\"person she loved the most\\\" like in Dorothea/Petra)...
(2) The entire idea that Cyril and Shamir might be a romantic pairing is based on one line/outburst from Cyril and literally nothing else. There\\\'s no indication Shamir views him as anything but her student/mentee and her reaction is to basically tell him \\\"let\\\'s both forget you ever said this\\\" while he blushes. Every other interaction with him is a mentor/mentee one and even the entry here acknowledges it.
Again - to compare with Catherine/Shamir...even if you assume Shamir\\\'s proposal was joking (which is editorializing, not simply reading the text as the standard is supposed to be), their A+ support is all about them finally admitting how much they mean to each other/making comparisons to dead former loves/partners/talking about lifelong commitments, etc. and the Japanese translation is even more suggestive (Shamir talking about being \\\"more than partners\\\" and the Dagda stuff).
I\\\'m confused as to why the pairing with the actual meaningful romantic subtext (even if you\\\'re not convinced by it) is stated as firmly platonic/non-romantic while another with a single line of dialogue that is then rejected is treated as ambiguous.
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I have to ask - why does Cyril include a link to \
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I have to ask - why does Cyril include a link to \\\"Maybe Ever After\\\" with Shamir and reference the \\\"ambiguous nature\\\" of their relationship in their ending? It seems wholly inconsistent with how Catherine/Shamir are treated given that
(1) Cyril and Shamir have no romantic text in their ending - in fact, their paired ending only talks about how they were Robin Hood types, while Catherine and Shamir\\\'s at least references them being on a \\\"lifelong journey\\\" and inseparable (and as I mentioned above, the Japanese translation of their A+ makes them winding up in Dagda more meaningful).
(2) The entire idea that Cyril and Shamir might be a romantic pairing is based on one line/outburst from Cyril and literally nothing else. There\\\'s no indication Shamir views him as anything but her student/mentee and her reaction is to basically tell him \\\"let\\\'s both forget you ever said this\\\" while he blushes. Every other interaction with him is a mentor/mentee one and even the entry here acknowledges it.
Again - to compare with Catherine/Shamir...even if you assume Shamir\\\'s proposal was joking (which is editorializing, not simply reading the text as the standard is supposed to be), their A+ support is all about them finally admitting how much they mean to each other/making comparisons to dead former loves/partners/talking about lifelong commitments, etc. and the Japanese translation is even more suggestive (Shamir talking about being \\\"more than partners\\\" and the Dagda stuff).
I\\\'m confused as to why the pairing with the actual meaningful romantic subtext (even if you\\\'re not convinced by it) is stated as firmly platonic/non-romantic while another with a single line of dialogue that is then rejected is treated as ambiguous.
(1) Cyril and Shamir have no romantic text in their ending - in fact, their paired ending only talks about how they were Robin Hood types, while Catherine and Shamir\\\'s at least references them being on a \\\"lifelong journey\\\" and inseparable (and as I mentioned above, the Japanese translation of their A+ makes them winding up in Dagda more meaningful).
(2) The entire idea that Cyril and Shamir might be a romantic pairing is based on one line/outburst from Cyril and literally nothing else. There\\\'s no indication Shamir views him as anything but her student/mentee and her reaction is to basically tell him \\\"let\\\'s both forget you ever said this\\\" while he blushes. Every other interaction with him is a mentor/mentee one and even the entry here acknowledges it.
Again - to compare with Catherine/Shamir...even if you assume Shamir\\\'s proposal was joking (which is editorializing, not simply reading the text as the standard is supposed to be), their A+ support is all about them finally admitting how much they mean to each other/making comparisons to dead former loves/partners/talking about lifelong commitments, etc. and the Japanese translation is even more suggestive (Shamir talking about being \\\"more than partners\\\" and the Dagda stuff).
I\\\'m confused as to why the pairing with the actual meaningful romantic subtext (even if you\\\'re not convinced by it) is stated as firmly platonic/non-romantic while another with a single line of dialogue that is then rejected is treated as ambiguous.
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I have to ask - why does Cyril include a link to \
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I have to ask - why does Cyril include a link to \\\"Maybe Ever After\\\" with Shamir and reference the \\\"ambiguous nature\\\" of their relationship in their ending? It seems wholly inconsistent with how Catherine/Shamir are treated despite
(1) also not having any explicit romantic text in their ending - in fact, their paired ending only talks about how they were Robin Hood types, while Catherine and Shamir\\\'s at least references them being on a \\\"lifelong journey\\\" and inseparable (and as I mentioned above, the Japanese translation of their A+ makes them winding up in Dagda more meaningful).
(2) The entire idea that Cyril and Shamir might be a romantic pairing is based on one line/outburst from Cyril and literally nothing else. There\\\'s no indication Shamir views him as anything but her student/mentee and her reaction is to basically tell him \\\"let\\\'s both forget you ever said this\\\".
Again - to compare with Catherine/Shamir...even if you assume Shamir\\\'s proposal was joking (which is really editorializing, not simply reading the text), their A+ support is all about them finally admitting how much they mean to each other/making comparisons to dead former loves/partners/etc. and the Japanese translation is even more suggestive (Shamir talking about being \\\"more than partners\\\" and the Dagda stuff).
I\\\'m confused as to why the pairing with the actual meaningful romantic subtext (even if you\\\'re not convinced by it) is stated as firmly platonic/non-romantic while another with a single line of dialogue that is then rejected is treated as ambiguous.
(1) also not having any explicit romantic text in their ending - in fact, their paired ending only talks about how they were Robin Hood types, while Catherine and Shamir\\\'s at least references them being on a \\\"lifelong journey\\\" and inseparable (and as I mentioned above, the Japanese translation of their A+ makes them winding up in Dagda more meaningful).
(2) The entire idea that Cyril and Shamir might be a romantic pairing is based on one line/outburst from Cyril and literally nothing else. There\\\'s no indication Shamir views him as anything but her student/mentee and her reaction is to basically tell him \\\"let\\\'s both forget you ever said this\\\".
Again - to compare with Catherine/Shamir...even if you assume Shamir\\\'s proposal was joking (which is really editorializing, not simply reading the text), their A+ support is all about them finally admitting how much they mean to each other/making comparisons to dead former loves/partners/etc. and the Japanese translation is even more suggestive (Shamir talking about being \\\"more than partners\\\" and the Dagda stuff).
I\\\'m confused as to why the pairing with the actual meaningful romantic subtext (even if you\\\'re not convinced by it) is stated as firmly platonic/non-romantic while another with a single line of dialogue that is then rejected is treated as ambiguous.
