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TheMightyHeptagon
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...It\\\'s \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' different, though. There\\\'s no gravity in space; if a person has telekinetic abilities, there\\\'s no reason they couldn\\\'t pull or push themself though space while floating, just like they could use their telekinesis to pull or push a floating object. That\\\'s exactly what Luke did with his \\\"Force jump\\\", but he did it on Earth. It\\\'s the same principle, just under different circumstances.
I\\\'m not sure where you got the idea that Luke\\\'s projection in \\\'\\\'The Last Jedi\\\'\\\' was a \\\"semi-physical form\\\". It \\\'\\\'wasn\\\'t\\\'\\\' physical at all; that was the point. As soon as Kylo Ren tried to strike him with his lightsaber, he saw that Luke\\\'s body was intangible. As for the fact that he appeared younger in that vision: that\\\'s no different from Luke\\\'s vision of Vader in \\\'\\\'The Empire Strikes Back\\\'\\\' appearing to have Luke\\\'s face. They\\\'re both just illusions. There\\\'s no \\\"head canon\\\" there; I\\\'m just observing what was in the movie.
And I\\\'m aware that his projection wasn\\\'t the same thing as a Force ghost. My point was that both of those things were different forms of astral projection. That\\\'s just another form of psychic ability, which is all that most Force powers are.
In any case, my point still stands: the new Force powers in the Sequel Trilogy \\\'\\\'aren\\\'t\\\'\\\' indicative of a problem that was tolerable early on, but eventually grew out of control. If they aren\\\'t, then they don\\\'t fit the definition of the trope. And if they don\\\'t fit the definition of the trope, they don\\\'t belong on the page.
@Revolutionary_Jack:
I gave my reason for deleting the post in a perfectly succinct manner. The only reason we\\\'re here--and the only reason I\\\'m giving a more lengthy explanation--is because another user questioned my reasons. If you think my reasons are overly long, that doesn\\\'t make them wrong by default. Everything I\\\'ve said is a perfectly reasonable summation of the film.
I\\\'m not sure where you got the idea that Luke\\\'s projection in \\\'\\\'The Last Jedi\\\'\\\' was a \\\"semi-physical form\\\". It \\\'\\\'wasn\\\'t\\\'\\\' physical at all; that was the point. As soon as Kylo Ren tried to strike him with his lightsaber, he saw that Luke\\\'s body was intangible. As for the fact that he appeared younger in that vision: that\\\'s no different from Luke\\\'s vision of Vader in \\\'\\\'The Empire Strikes Back\\\'\\\' appearing to have Luke\\\'s face. They\\\'re both just illusions. There\\\'s no \\\"head canon\\\" there; I\\\'m just observing what was in the movie.
And I\\\'m aware that his projection wasn\\\'t the same thing as a Force ghost. My point was that both of those things were different forms of astral projection. That\\\'s just another form of psychic ability, which is all that most Force powers are.
In any case, my point still stands: the new Force powers in the Sequel Trilogy \\\'\\\'aren\\\'t\\\'\\\' indicative of a problem that was tolerable early on, but eventually grew out of control. If they aren\\\'t, then they don\\\'t fit the definition of the trope. And if they don\\\'t fit the definition of the trope, they don\\\'t belong on the page.
@Revolutionary_Jack:
I gave my reason for deleting the post in a perfectly succinct manner. The only reason we\\\'re here--and the only reason I\\\'m giving a more lengthy explanation--is because another user questioned my reasons. If you think my reasons are overly long, that doesn\\\'t make them wrong by default. Everything I\\\'ve said is a perfectly reasonable summation of the film.
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...It\\\'s \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' different, though. There\\\'s no gravity in space; if a person has telekinetic abilities, there\\\'s no reason they couldn\\\'t pull themself along while floating, just like they could use their telekinesis to pull a floating object along. It\\\'s the same principle, just under different circumstances.
I\\\'m not sure where you got the idea that Luke\\\'s projection in \\\'\\\'The Last Jedi\\\'\\\' was a \\\"semi-physical form\\\". It \\\'\\\'wasn\\\'t\\\'\\\' physical at all; that was the point. As soon as Kylo Ren tried to strike him with his lightsaber, he saw that Luke\\\'s body was intangible. As for the fact that he appeared younger in that vision: that\\\'s no different from Luke\\\'s vision of Vader in \\\'\\\'The Empire Strikes Back\\\'\\\' appearing to have Luke\\\'s face. They\\\'re both just illusions. There\\\'s no \\\"head canon\\\" there; I\\\'m just observing what was in the movie.
And I\\\'m aware that his projection wasn\\\'t the same thing as a Force ghost. My point was that both of those things were different forms of astral projection. That\\\'s just another form of psychic ability, which is all that most Force powers are.
In any case, my point still stands: the new Force powers in the Sequel Trilogy \\\'\\\'aren\\\'t\\\'\\\' indicative of a problem that was tolerable early on, but eventually grew out of control. If they aren\\\'t, then they don\\\'t fit the definition of the trope. And if they don\\\'t fit the definition of the trope, they don\\\'t belong on the page.
@Revolutionary_Jack:
I gave my reason for deleting the post in a perfectly succinct manner. The only reason we\\\'re here--and the only reason I\\\'m giving a more lengthy explanation--is because another user questioned my reasons. If you think my reasons are overly long, that doesn\\\'t make them wrong by default. Everything I\\\'ve said is a perfectly reasonable summation of the film.
I\\\'m not sure where you got the idea that Luke\\\'s projection in \\\'\\\'The Last Jedi\\\'\\\' was a \\\"semi-physical form\\\". It \\\'\\\'wasn\\\'t\\\'\\\' physical at all; that was the point. As soon as Kylo Ren tried to strike him with his lightsaber, he saw that Luke\\\'s body was intangible. As for the fact that he appeared younger in that vision: that\\\'s no different from Luke\\\'s vision of Vader in \\\'\\\'The Empire Strikes Back\\\'\\\' appearing to have Luke\\\'s face. They\\\'re both just illusions. There\\\'s no \\\"head canon\\\" there; I\\\'m just observing what was in the movie.
And I\\\'m aware that his projection wasn\\\'t the same thing as a Force ghost. My point was that both of those things were different forms of astral projection. That\\\'s just another form of psychic ability, which is all that most Force powers are.
In any case, my point still stands: the new Force powers in the Sequel Trilogy \\\'\\\'aren\\\'t\\\'\\\' indicative of a problem that was tolerable early on, but eventually grew out of control. If they aren\\\'t, then they don\\\'t fit the definition of the trope. And if they don\\\'t fit the definition of the trope, they don\\\'t belong on the page.
@Revolutionary_Jack:
I gave my reason for deleting the post in a perfectly succinct manner. The only reason we\\\'re here--and the only reason I\\\'m giving a more lengthy explanation--is because another user questioned my reasons. If you think my reasons are overly long, that doesn\\\'t make them wrong by default. Everything I\\\'ve said is a perfectly reasonable summation of the film.
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...It\\\'s \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' different, though. There\\\'s no gravity in space; if a person has telekinetic abilities, there\\\'s no reason they couldn\\\'t pull themself along, just like they could use their telekinesis to pull an object along. It\\\'s the same principle, just under different circumstances.
I\\\'m not sure where you got the idea that Luke\\\'s projection in \\\'\\\'The Last Jedi\\\'\\\' was a \\\"semi-physical form\\\". It \\\'\\\'wasn\\\'t\\\'\\\' physical; that was the point. As soon as Kylo Ren tried to strike him with his lightsaber, he saw that Luke\\\'s body was intangible. As for the fact that he appeared younger in that vision: that\\\'s no different from Luke\\\'s vision of Vader in \\\'\\\'The Empire Strikes Back\\\'\\\' appearing to have Luke\\\'s face. They\\\'re both just illusions. There\\\'s no \\\"head canon\\\" there; I\\\'m just observing what was in the movie.
And I\\\'m aware that his projection wasn\\\'t the same thing as a Force ghost. My point was that both of those things were different forms of astral projection. That\\\'s just another form of psychic ability, which is all that most Force powers are.
In any case, my point still stands: the new Force powers in the Sequel Trilogy \\\'\\\'aren\\\'t\\\'\\\' indicative of a problem that was tolerable early on, but eventually grew out of control. If they aren\\\'t, then they don\\\'t fit the definition of the trope. And if they don\\\'t fit the definition of the trope, they don\\\'t belong on the page.
@Revolutionary_Jack:
I gave my reason for deleting the post in a perfectly succinct manner. The only reason we\\\'re here--and the only reason I\\\'m giving a more lengthy explanation--is because another user questioned my reasons. If you think my reasons are overly long, that doesn\\\'t make them wrong by default. Everything I\\\'ve said is a perfectly reasonable summation of the film.
I\\\'m not sure where you got the idea that Luke\\\'s projection in \\\'\\\'The Last Jedi\\\'\\\' was a \\\"semi-physical form\\\". It \\\'\\\'wasn\\\'t\\\'\\\' physical; that was the point. As soon as Kylo Ren tried to strike him with his lightsaber, he saw that Luke\\\'s body was intangible. As for the fact that he appeared younger in that vision: that\\\'s no different from Luke\\\'s vision of Vader in \\\'\\\'The Empire Strikes Back\\\'\\\' appearing to have Luke\\\'s face. They\\\'re both just illusions. There\\\'s no \\\"head canon\\\" there; I\\\'m just observing what was in the movie.
And I\\\'m aware that his projection wasn\\\'t the same thing as a Force ghost. My point was that both of those things were different forms of astral projection. That\\\'s just another form of psychic ability, which is all that most Force powers are.
In any case, my point still stands: the new Force powers in the Sequel Trilogy \\\'\\\'aren\\\'t\\\'\\\' indicative of a problem that was tolerable early on, but eventually grew out of control. If they aren\\\'t, then they don\\\'t fit the definition of the trope. And if they don\\\'t fit the definition of the trope, they don\\\'t belong on the page.
@Revolutionary_Jack:
I gave my reason for deleting the post in a perfectly succinct manner. The only reason we\\\'re here--and the only reason I\\\'m giving a more lengthy explanation--is because another user questioned my reasons. If you think my reasons are overly long, that doesn\\\'t make them wrong by default. Everything I\\\'ve said is a perfectly reasonable summation of the film.
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...It\\\'s \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' different, though. There\\\'s no gravity in space; if a person has telekinetic abilities, there\\\'s no reason they couldn\\\'t pull themself along, just like they could use their telekinesis to pull an object along. It\\\'s the same principle, just under different circumstances.
I\\\'m not sure where you got the idea that Luke\\\'s projection in \\\'\\\'The Last Jedi\\\'\\\' was a \\\"semi-physical form\\\". It \\\'\\\'wasn\\\'t\\\'\\\' physical; that was the point. As soon as Kylo Ren tried to strike him with his lightsaber, he saw that Luke\\\'s body was intangible. As for the fact that he appeared younger in that vision: that\\\'s no different from Luke\\\'s vision of Vader in \\\'\\\'The Empire Strikes Back\\\'\\\' appearing to have Luke\\\'s face. They\\\'re both just illusions. There\\\'s no \\\"head canon\\\" there; I\\\'m just observing what was in the movie.
And I\\\'m aware that his projection wasn\\\'t the same thing as a Force ghost. My point was that both of those things were different forms of astral projection. That\\\'s just another form of psychic ability, which is all that most Force powers are.
@Revolutionary_Jack:
I gave my reason for deleting the post in a perfectly succinct manner. The only reason we\\\'re here--and the only reason I\\\'m giving a more lengthy explanation--is because another user questioned my reasons. If you think my reasons are overly long, that doesn\\\'t make them wrong by default. Everything I\\\'ve said is a perfectly reasonable summation of the film.
I\\\'m not sure where you got the idea that Luke\\\'s projection in \\\'\\\'The Last Jedi\\\'\\\' was a \\\"semi-physical form\\\". It \\\'\\\'wasn\\\'t\\\'\\\' physical; that was the point. As soon as Kylo Ren tried to strike him with his lightsaber, he saw that Luke\\\'s body was intangible. As for the fact that he appeared younger in that vision: that\\\'s no different from Luke\\\'s vision of Vader in \\\'\\\'The Empire Strikes Back\\\'\\\' appearing to have Luke\\\'s face. They\\\'re both just illusions. There\\\'s no \\\"head canon\\\" there; I\\\'m just observing what was in the movie.
And I\\\'m aware that his projection wasn\\\'t the same thing as a Force ghost. My point was that both of those things were different forms of astral projection. That\\\'s just another form of psychic ability, which is all that most Force powers are.
@Revolutionary_Jack:
I gave my reason for deleting the post in a perfectly succinct manner. The only reason we\\\'re here--and the only reason I\\\'m giving a more lengthy explanation--is because another user questioned my reasons. If you think my reasons are overly long, that doesn\\\'t make them wrong by default. Everything I\\\'ve said is a perfectly reasonable summation of the film.
