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Update: I put Sitron on a separate \\\"Frozen Animals\\\" page with Sven, put the snow creatures and the trolls on a \\\"Frozen Magical Creatures\\\" page, and a page for A Frozen Heart Exclusive characters that\\\'s a sub-bullet under \\\"Extended Universe\\\" on the main character index. I also made the Southern Isles page into an index that links to a page for Hans, a page for A Frozen Heart Exclusive characters, and the general franchise page that covers Frozen-related tropes that don\\\'t fit into other pages go, including versions of the Southern Isles that don\\\'t come from works with their own pages.
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I was thinking of making a page for animals (Sven and Sitron), or maybe non-human characters (Sven, Sitron, Olaf, and the snowgies). Right now the index differentiates between Extended Media characters and canon characters, but there\'s so much on the characters in A Frozen Heart that there\'s a separate page for Southern Isles characters, but that page mixes canon and ExtendedUniverse, which is confusing. Most of what\'s on the page comes from A Frozen Heart, though, and the only characters on it who appear in canon are Hans and Sitron, and Hans already has his own page, so I thought separating Sitron would help. One reason I\'m hesitant, though, is that the index is also mostly organized by home location right now, although there are characters on the Extended Universe page are from Arendelle, so that inconsistency is already there.
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I was thinking of making a page for animals (Sven and Sitron), or maybe non-human characters (Sven, Sitron, Olaf, and the snowgies). Right now the index differentiates between Extended Media characters and canon characters, but there\\\'s so much on the characters in A Frozen Heart that there\\\'s a separate page for Southern Isles characters, but that page mixes canon and ExtendedUniverse, which is confusing. Most of what\\\'s on the page comes from A Frozen Heart, though, and the only characters on it who appear in canon are Hans and Sitron, and Hans already has his own page, so I thought separating Sitron would help. One reason I\\\'m hesitant, though, is that the index is also mostly organized by home location right now, although there\\\'s at least one character on the Extended Universe page from Arendelle, so that inconsistency is already there.
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I was thinking of making a page for animals (Sven and Sitron), or maybe non-human characters (Sven, Sitron, Olaf, and the snowgies). Right now the index differentiates between Extended Media characters and canon characters, but there\'s so much on the characters in A Frozen Heart that there\'s a separate page for Southern Isles characters, but that page mixes canon and ExtendedUniverse, which is confusing. Most of what\'s on the page comes from A Frozen Heart, though, and the only characters on it who appear in canon are Hans and Sitron, and Hans already has his own page, so I thought separating Sitron would help. One reason I\'m hesitant, though, is that the index is also mostly organized by home location right now, although the characters on the Extended Universe page are both from Arendelle, so that inconsistency is already there.
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I was thinking of making a page for animals (Sven and Sitron), or maybe non-human characters (Sven, Sitron, Olaf, and the snowgies). Right now the index differentiates between Extended Media characters and canon characters, but there\\\'s so much on the characters in A Frozen Heart that there\\\'s a separate page for Southern Isles characters, but that page mixes canon and ExtendedUniverse, which is confusing. Most of what\\\'s on the page comes from A Frozen Heart, though, and the only characters on it who appear in canon are Hans and Sitron, and Hans already has his own page, so I thought separating Sitron would help. One reason I\\\'m hesitant, though, is that the index is also mostly organized by home location right now, although there are characters on the Extended Universe page are from Arendelle, so that inconsistency is already there.
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I was thinking of making a page for animals (Sven and Sitron), or maybe non-human characters (Sven, Sitron, Olaf, and the snowgies). Right now the index differentiates between Extended Media characters and canon characters, but there\'s so much on the characters in A Frozen Heart that there\'s a separate page for Southern Isles characters, but that page mixes canon and ExtendedUniverse, which is confusing. Most of what\'s on the page comes from A Frozen Heart, though, and the only characters on it who appear in canon are Hans and Sitron, and Hans already has his own page, so I thought separating Sitron would help. One reason I\'m hesitant, though, is that the index is also mostly organized by home location right now.
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I was thinking of making a page for animals (Sven and Sitron), or maybe non-human characters (Sven, Sitron, Olaf, and the snowgies). Right now the index differentiates between Extended Media characters and canon characters, but there\\\'s so much on the characters in A Frozen Heart that there\\\'s a separate page for Southern Isles characters, but that page mixes canon and ExtendedUniverse, which is confusing. Most of what\\\'s on the page comes from A Frozen Heart, though, and the only characters on it who appear in canon are Hans and Sitron, and Hans already has his own page, so I thought separating Sitron would help. One reason I\\\'m hesitant, though, is that the index is also mostly organized by home location right now, although the characters on the Extended Universe page are both from Arendelle, so that inconsistency is already there.
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I was thinking of making a page for animals (Sven and Sitron), or maybe non-human characters (Sven, Sitron, Olaf, and the snowgies). Right now the index differentiates between Extended Media characters and canon characters, but there\'s so much on the characters in A Frozen Heart that there\'s a separate page for Southern Isles characters, but that page mixes canon and ExtendedUniverse, which is confusing. Most of what\'s on the page comes from A Frozen Heart, though, and the only characters on it who appear in canon are Hans and Sitron, and Hans already has his own page, so I thought separating Sitron would help.
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I was thinking of making a page for animals (Sven and Sitron), or maybe non-human characters (Sven, Sitron, Olaf, and the snowgies). Right now the index differentiates between Extended Media characters and canon characters, but there\\\'s so much on the characters in A Frozen Heart that there\\\'s a separate page for Southern Isles characters, but that page mixes canon and ExtendedUniverse, which is confusing. Most of what\\\'s on the page comes from A Frozen Heart, though, and the only characters on it who appear in canon are Hans and Sitron, and Hans already has his own page, so I thought separating Sitron would help. One reason I\\\'m hesitant, though, is that the index is also mostly organized by home location right now.
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The creators were pushing her before her first appearance in trailers. They were dropping 'clues' about a future new character that had the fandom in a tizz of speculative excitement, which went a little nuts when they started posting pictures of neapolitan ice-cream.
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The creators were pushing her before her first appearance in trailers. They were dropping \'clues\' about a future new character that had the fandom in a tizz of speculative excitement, which went a little nuts when they started posting pictures of neapolitan ice-cream.
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When her appearance was finally revealed, the creators did admit that it was based on a cosplay costume they saw of a gender-flipped Roman. The fandom basically acted like it 'owned' her after that, possibly because gender-flipped Roman was so popular across the fandom at the time (as was Roman himself).
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When her appearance was finally revealed, the creators did admit that it was based on a cosplay costume they saw of a gender-flipped Roman. The fandom basically acted like it \'owned\' her after that, possibly because gender-flipped Roman was so popular across the fandom at the time (as was Roman himself).
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While you're right that part of her continued appeal has the mystery associated with her limited role, there also has been frustration in the fandom that her screen-time hasn't matched her pre-release hype.
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While you\'re right that part of her continued appeal has the mystery associated with her limited role, there also has been frustration in the fandom that her screen-time hasn\'t matched her pre-release hype.
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She obviously doesn't fit the BreakoutCharacter trope in the main show, although a discussion possibly may be worth having on the Chibi page about whether or not qualifies in the spin-off, given that she does appear as regularly as any other villain, and more regularly than some.
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She obviously doesn\'t fit the BreakoutCharacter trope in the main show, although a discussion possibly may be worth having on the Chibi page about whether or not qualifies in the spin-off, given that she does appear as regularly as any other villain, and more regularly than some.
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However, there's no doubt that the creators intended for her to be popular. There may be a question of whether or not she's even more popular than they expected, but EnsembleDarkhorse is about unexpected popularity, not 'expected popularity is more successful than thought'. If there is a trope for that, it's worth exploring. If there isn't, perhaps there should be (I know characters in other works that are in the same position as Neo -- planned to be popular, but turned out to be even more successful than the creator expected).
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However, there\'s no doubt that the creators intended for her to be popular. There may be a question of whether or not she\'s even more popular than they expected, but EnsembleDarkhorse is about unexpected popularity, not \'expected popularity is more successful than thought\'. If there is a trope for that kind of PerformedAboveExpectation, it\'s worth exploring. If there isn\'t, perhaps there should be (I know characters in other works that are in the same position as Neo -- planned to be popular, but turned out to be even more successful than the creator expected).
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The creators were pushing her before her first appearance in trailers. They were dropping 'clues' about a future new character that had the fandom in a tizz of speculative excitement, which went a little nuts when they started posting pictures of neapolitan ice-cream.
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The creators were pushing her before her first appearance in trailers. They were dropping \'clues\' about a future new character that had the fandom in a tizz of speculative excitement, which went a little nuts when they started posting pictures of neapolitan ice-cream.
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When her appearance was finally revealed, the creators did admit that it was based on a cosplay costume they saw of a gender-flipped Roman. The fandom basically acted like it 'owned' her after that, possibly because gender-flipped Roman was so popular across the fandom at the time (as was Roman himself).
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When her appearance was finally revealed, the creators did admit that it was based on a cosplay costume they saw of a gender-flipped Roman. The fandom basically acted like it \'owned\' her after that, possibly because gender-flipped Roman was so popular across the fandom at the time (as was Roman himself).
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While you're right that part of her continued appeal has the mystery associated with her limited role, there also has been frustration in the fandom that her screen-time hasn't matched her pre-release hype.
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While you\'re right that part of her continued appeal has the mystery associated with her limited role, there also has been frustration in the fandom that her screen-time hasn\'t matched her pre-release hype.
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She obviously doesn't fit the BreakoutCharacter trope in the main show, although a discussion possibly may be worth having on the Chibi page about whether or not qualifies in the spin-off, given that she does appear as regularly as any other villain, and more regularly than some.
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She obviously doesn\'t fit the BreakoutCharacter trope in the main show, although a discussion possibly may be worth having on the Chibi page about whether or not qualifies in the spin-off, given that she does appear as regularly as any other villain, and more regularly than some.
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However, there's no doubt that the creators intended for her to be popular. There may be a question of whether or not she's even more popular than they expected, but EnsembleDarkhorse is about unexpected popular, not 'expected popularity is more successful than thought'. If there is a trope for that, it's worth exploring. If there isn't, perhaps there should be (I know characters in other works that are in the same position as Neo -- planned to be popular, but turned out to be even more successful than the creator expected).
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However, there\'s no doubt that the creators intended for her to be popular. There may be a question of whether or not she\'s even more popular than they expected, but EnsembleDarkhorse is about unexpected popularity, not \'expected popularity is more successful than thought\'. If there is a trope for that, it\'s worth exploring. If there isn\'t, perhaps there should be (I know characters in other works that are in the same position as Neo -- planned to be popular, but turned out to be even more successful than the creator expected).
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