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So to start with, here\'s the problem with the beliefs you\'ve touted here:

# If anyone who expresses intolerance for other opinions other than their owns is a \"bigot\", then you\'re basically fitting your own description by showing no tolerance for \"[[GoldenMeanFallacy both sides]]\". That\'s why that definition of \"bigot\" really doesn\'t help in any conversation.
# The term \"heteronormative\" was specifically coined to describe an attitude that marginalizes, stigmatizes, or discriminates against LGBTQ persons and activity by saying it isn\'t \"normal\". Which, by your own definition, means heteronormativity describes a specific type of bigotry[[note]]Intolerance for opinions/beliefs/etc. aside from your own.[[/note]]. Whether you agree with it or not, that\'s what the term means; I, for one, find the term \"{{cuckold}}\" to be utterly stupid and pointless, but it still has a meaning whether I like it or not.
# Dictionary definitions are useful, but \'\'\'never\'\'\' set in stone. For example, the original dictionary definition of \"heterosexual\" was \"morbid sexual passion for one of the opposite sex\", a definition it held for three decades until being changed in 1934.

So, to summarize: trying to figure out who the \"real bigots\" are is pointless because, the term heteronormativity describes an action which is a specific form of bigotry, and dictionary-thumping rarely results in productive conversation.

That being said, what Yumina said was definitely \"heteronormativity\", so the real question is whether or not she qualifies as a \"crusader\". And to be honest, I have a problem looking at Yumina\'s reaction to Sue in isolation from the rest of the text. Touya constantly reacts to homosexuality with revulsion and stigmatization, and other characters (especially in the main group) do as well. Yumina, however, is the ONLY character to admonish a proposed homosexual action because it\'s not \"proper\".

For that reason, I originally let the example stand as a DownplayedTrope, because yes it was only one instance, but it\'s also one of the strongest instances in a story full of them.
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