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[003] KingZeal Current Version

29th Mar '16 at 11:39:44 AM

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While I'm at it, though, let me also address these personal attacks you insist on.

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While I\'m at it, though, let me also address these personal attacks you insist on.

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That being said, though, SOME positions I don't see any way to mediate without falling into a GoldenMeanFallacy. For instance, I used the example of a that unironically and uncritically cals Holocaust Deniers TheCassandra. If a ''work'' does it, then we need to ''very carefully'' indicate that this is the work's position. However, this position doesn't apply if this is external logic and not in-universe logic--for example:

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That being said, though, SOME positions I don\'t see any way to mediate without falling into a GoldenMeanFallacy. For instance, I used the example of an edit that unironically and uncritically calls Holocaust Deniers TheCassandra. If a \'\'work\'\' does it, then we need to \'\'very carefully\'\' indicate that this is the work\'s position. However, this position doesn\'t apply if this is external logic and not in-universe logic--for example:

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Assuming that no Jewish conspiracy is an actual plot in the story, that example is not referring to a fictional trope. It's using an opinion from OUTSIDE of the work to create an example. No amount of

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Assuming that no Jewish conspiracy is an actual plot in the story, that example is not referring to a fictional trope. It\'s using an opinion from OUTSIDE of the work to create an example. No amount of \"mediation\" or \"neutrality\" is going to make that work. It either gets cut or it doesn\'t.

StrawmanHasAPoint, by its nature, requires external logic.

[002] KingZeal

29th Mar '16 at 11:31:10 AM

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While I'm at it, though, let me also address these personal attacks you insist on.

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While I\'m at it, though, let me also address these personal attacks you insist on.

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That being said, though, SOME positions I don't see any way to mediate without falling into a GoldenMeanFallacy. For instance, I used the example of a that unironically and uncritically cals Holocaust Deniers TheCassandra. If a ''work'' does it, then we need to ''very carefully'' indicate that this is the work's position. However, this position doesn't apply if this is external logic and not in-universe logic--for example:

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That being said, though, SOME positions I don\'t see any way to mediate without falling into a GoldenMeanFallacy. For instance, I used the example of a that unironically and uncritically cals Holocaust Deniers TheCassandra. If a \'\'work\'\' does it, then we need to \'\'very carefully\'\' indicate that this is the work\'s position. However, this position doesn\'t apply if this is external logic and not in-universe logic--for example:

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Assuming that no Jewish conspiracy is an actual plot in the story, that example is not referring to a fictional trope. It's using an opinion from OUTSIDE of the work to create an example. No amount of

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Assuming that no Jewish conspiracy is an actual plot in the story, that example is not referring to a fictional trope. It\'s using an opinion from OUTSIDE of the work to create an example. No amount of \"mediation\" or \"neutrality\" is going to make that work. It either gets cut or it doesn\'t.

StrawmanHasAPoint, by its nature, requires external logic.

[001] KingZeal

29th Mar '16 at 11:28:22 AM

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While I'm at it, though, let me also address these personal attacks you insist on.

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While I\'m at it, though, let me also address these personal attacks you insist on.

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That being said, though, SOME positions I don't see any way to mediate without falling into a GoldenMeanFallacy. For instance, I used the example of a that unironically and uncritically cals Holocaust Deniers TheCassandra. If a ''work'' does it, then we need to ''very carefully'' indicate that this is the work's position. However, this position doesn't apply if this is external logic and not in-universe logic--for example:

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That being said, though, SOME positions I don\'t see any way to mediate without falling into a GoldenMeanFallacy. For instance, I used the example of a that unironically and uncritically cals Holocaust Deniers TheCassandra. If a \'\'work\'\' does it, then we need to \'\'very carefully\'\' indicate that this is the work\'s position. However, this position doesn\'t apply if this is external logic and not in-universe logic--for example:

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That's not referring to a fictional trope. It's using an opinion from OUTSIDE of the work to create an example.

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Assuming that no Jewish conspiracy is an actual plot in the story, that example is not referring to a fictional trope. It\'s using an opinion from OUTSIDE of the work to create an example. No amount of \"mediation\" or \"neutrality\" is going to make that work. It either gets cut or it doesn\'t.

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