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I'm sorry, is this page StrawmanHasAPoint, or StrawmanHasAPointKingZealAgreesWith?
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I\'m sorry, is this page StrawmanHasAPoint, or StrawmanHasAPointKingZealAgreesWith?
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But seriously, though. Zeal, you need to stop this. You claim you're trying to fight against
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But seriously, though. Zeal, you need to stop this. You claim you\'re trying to fight against \"bias\" but you don\'t seem to realize this is a YMMV page... it\'s all about opinions, ie \'\'\'\'\'bias\'\'\'\'\'. By trying to silence every opinion you disagree with you are only creating \'\'further\'\' bias.
As for the comic, I read it and I can honestly say that it counts. Here\'s why.
First, yeah, Politically Incorrect Man is kind of a jerk. If you pay attention you notice that he doesn\'t actually resolve any of the problems in the beginning of the comic. He just swoops in, lectures someone, and then flies away. That\'s what makes him a strawman.
The thing is, though... the points he was making were all valid. Note that I said \"valid,\" not \"God\'s own truth.\" We could question whether those points are correct, but we can\'t just dismiss them as obvious BS. That\'s what we mean when we say he \"has a point.\"
The further issue is that Mx. Respect For Others doesn\'t adequately prove that he\'s the bad guy. She argues that he isn\'t really trying to promote free speech, he\'s just trying to protect people when they\'re called out for being rude. Except... none of the people in question were actually being rude.
The guy in the first case was just trying to see his girlfriend, and the fact that he was talking with the woman outside the building proves that he was obviously willing to be reasonable. NOT RUDE.
The woman in the second case wasn\'t cursing or screaming or throwing racial slurs. She was sitting on a bench and calmly making an argument. NOT RUDE.
As for the third case, the guy with the hat was being very blunt, but the fact is - and I\'m saying this as a person who has long been considered clinically obese - he is objectively right. NOT RUDE.
The issue isn\'t that PIC Man is perfect and the hero, it\'s that the comic failed to adequately prove that he\'s wrong. (And honestly, Mx. Respect For Others ALSO didn\'t actually solve anyone\'s problems. She just swooped in, lectured PIC Man, and then flew away.)
As for the comic, I read it and I can honestly say that it counts. Here\'s why.
First, yeah, Politically Incorrect Man is kind of a jerk. If you pay attention you notice that he doesn\'t actually resolve any of the problems in the beginning of the comic. He just swoops in, lectures someone, and then flies away. That\'s what makes him a strawman.
The thing is, though... the points he was making were all valid. Note that I said \"valid,\" not \"God\'s own truth.\" We could question whether those points are correct, but we can\'t just dismiss them as obvious BS. That\'s what we mean when we say he \"has a point.\"
The further issue is that Mx. Respect For Others doesn\'t adequately prove that he\'s the bad guy. She argues that he isn\'t really trying to promote free speech, he\'s just trying to protect people when they\'re called out for being rude. Except... none of the people in question were actually being rude.
The guy in the first case was just trying to see his girlfriend, and the fact that he was talking with the woman outside the building proves that he was obviously willing to be reasonable. NOT RUDE.
The woman in the second case wasn\'t cursing or screaming or throwing racial slurs. She was sitting on a bench and calmly making an argument. NOT RUDE.
As for the third case, the guy with the hat was being very blunt, but the fact is - and I\'m saying this as a person who has long been considered clinically obese - he is objectively right. NOT RUDE.
The issue isn\'t that PIC Man is perfect and the hero, it\'s that the comic failed to adequately prove that he\'s wrong. (And honestly, Mx. Respect For Others ALSO didn\'t actually solve anyone\'s problems. She just swooped in, lectured PIC Man, and then flew away.)
