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Aflac Let's Go Wyald! Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: On the prowl
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#39326: May 5th 2015 at 4:28:52 PM

Water trick?

Only Chrom and Robin can move onto the river on the Prologue map.

Taking advantage of this, Robin can safely attack enemy units without having to worry about a counter-attack. This is mainly used for luring the enemy mage to attack Robin+Lissa on the river while Frederick+Chrom sits nearby and tank hits from the other enemies. Once the mage is taken care of, Robin can pick off the rest one-by-one next turn.

edited 5th May '15 4:31:26 PM by Aflac

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#39327: May 5th 2015 at 4:30:39 PM

It's possible to do the same using the east portion of the river against half of the first wave. This allows Robin to get to level 3 before engaging the second wave.

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Aflac Let's Go Wyald! Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: On the prowl
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#39328: May 5th 2015 at 5:11:09 PM

replaying prologue...

that feeling you get when Robin misses his Thunder attack, and the enemy mage scores a critical hit for a game over

I guess that's what I get for picking +HP/-Luck

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#39329: May 5th 2015 at 5:22:58 PM

To be fair, the Elthunder Mage is going to have listed crit unless you took a Luck Asset.

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#39330: May 5th 2015 at 8:04:01 PM

Okay, can someone explain to me how to do supports in Blazing Sword? Because I've been putting Erk and Serra next to each other for a while now, and no luck. I got one between Hector and Eliwood, but that was entirely by accident.

I'm surprised it hasn't given a tutorial on them yet, unless I missed it somehow.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#39331: May 5th 2015 at 8:05:08 PM

The number of turns units need to park next to each other is excessive in the GBA games. You've done nothing wrong, aside from not accounting for how long the wait would be.

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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Otherarrow Since: Jul, 2010
#39333: May 5th 2015 at 8:07:10 PM

Well, let's just say that low turn count runs tend to also not be full support runs.

Also, go make a sandwich, you'll be a while.

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#39334: May 5th 2015 at 8:10:36 PM

...Great. Is there a chart anywhere that I could look them up for?

Because Hector and Eliwood had a support in no time at all.

edited 5th May '15 8:10:50 PM by KarkatTheDalek

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#39335: May 5th 2015 at 8:10:58 PM

It's gained turn-to-turn. Each support rank needs 80 points to reach the next level and each pair grows at their own rate that reflects how much they like each other. According to SF's chart, Serra and Erk have a 1 growth rate, so you'll have to wait around for 80 turns. If you keep waiting, it's possible to get 79 points toward the next rank in the same map, but no more. Basically, for 1-2 rate of gain pairs, I hope you like grinding. >.>

EDIT: Minor correction: 78 turns for rank C, since they already have 2 base points. 80 for each rank after that.

[up] That's because Eliwood and Hector have 72 starting points and a gain of 3 per turn.

edited 5th May '15 8:14:01 PM by KuroiTsubasaTenshi

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#39336: May 5th 2015 at 8:13:51 PM

Oh, and Erk and Serra are, if not at the top, up there with the supports that take the most time to grind. It's probably my favorite ship in the game and it's totally worth it, but it takes forever. Others won't take you nearly as long, though.

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BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#39337: May 5th 2015 at 8:20:43 PM

Eliwood and Hector are like Colm and Neimi in Sacred Stones: They support really quickly because they're the characters the game uses to teach you what supports are.

EDIT: Unrelated, but I'm on 2-2 in Radiant Dawn, and I think it's really clever that Nealuchi only has a visibility range of 1 in Fog of War. Kind of annoying, but clever.

edited 5th May '15 8:22:16 PM by BadWolf21

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#39338: May 5th 2015 at 8:21:55 PM

...Fuck.

Well, I suppose it makes sense - Erk doesn't really like Serra. I'll consult the chart.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#39339: May 5th 2015 at 9:01:52 PM

The methods in both Path of Radiance and Awakening are a marked improvement on the GBA games- Supports are a great element but it's obvious they didn't get it quite right the first time.

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#39340: May 5th 2015 at 9:53:24 PM

Eh, I like Awakening's formula regarding supports over the GBA titles, but Blazing Sword and Sacred Stones had better written supports on average. Probably because of the sheer volume Awakening had along with everyone needing to marry, but still.

But anyway, even if it's nice Gameplay and Story Integration, waiting 80 turns for a single support is way too much. Really should've been cut down.

edited 5th May '15 9:54:27 PM by Sterok

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#39341: May 5th 2015 at 10:38:57 PM

One more question - can you only do a certain number of supports with each character? I seem to recall reading that somewhere.

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Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
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#39342: May 5th 2015 at 10:49:52 PM

Yes. It's limited to 5 per character.

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IceAnt573 Forever not amused. Since: May, 2015
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#39343: May 5th 2015 at 11:08:23 PM

I think Awakening has as much quality support conversations as previous games. The bad supports (most notably pie supports, F Robin, and M Robin/Sully) however are pretty noticeable.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#39344: May 5th 2015 at 11:12:00 PM

[up][up]So to elaborate, that means you can have five C ranks, or three C ranks and a B, or two C ranks and an A, and so on. I personally like to go the A-C-C route, but A-B is perfectly valid, too.

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#39345: May 5th 2015 at 11:59:49 PM

Alright, then, Lyn/Hector it is, I suppose.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#39346: May 6th 2015 at 1:28:11 AM

The correct choice was actually Lyn/Florina, though.tongue

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Tarsen Since: Dec, 2009
#39347: May 6th 2015 at 1:31:41 AM

the only real choice is florina/lyn/hector OT3

edited 6th May '15 1:31:52 AM by Tarsen

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#39348: May 6th 2015 at 1:41:50 AM

I always pegged Hector's wife as being Farina, myself. She looks the most like Lilina, at least, though, granted, she also looks the most like Shanna.

Lyn and Florina presumably headed off for the Outrealms with everyone else who just mysteriously failed to exist in time for Binding Blade. They probably got married and are busy playing Robin Hood somewhere, and not just dead for no reason, right?

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#39349: May 6th 2015 at 1:59:22 AM

Eh, maybe I'll do them instead, I don't know. I already have their B support...

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IceAnt573 Forever not amused. Since: May, 2015
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#39350: May 6th 2015 at 6:47:43 AM

From advertisements going on Japan, it seems the Nohr Dark Knight's name is revealed to be Leon: http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=53567

I'm expecting a unit named Joseph or Lenin next...


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