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FellDeedsAwake Since: Mar, 2010
#126926: May 25th 2015 at 3:00:33 PM

Wooooo new FS! surprised

Good old Rinnosuke smile He's a fun character, he got so excited that he got to share his wisdom with the ladies... the minor is out past sundown? Pfft, who cares, there is obscure American Game Trivia to be shared!! surprised (Kosuzu looked really cute when she carefully raised her hand there; very childlike)

Hellz yeah, English in Touhou! grin[tup] Wasn't perfect, but I am surprised that those two knew that much.

Reimu continues to look badass.

...hmm, yeah, that did end up being pretty much a non-issue ^^ Oh well.

So far I've read up to chapter 25 of Wa HH and chapter 22 of FS. Since I saw no download links to the rest on the Wiki or Batoto, I'd just assumed the translations were unfinished.

They are. Very readable, though. If you're interested, Clarste might have a link? smile

edited 25th May '15 3:03:58 PM by FellDeedsAwake

Caprice Since: Jun, 2010
#126927: May 25th 2015 at 4:41:31 PM

It's been a long time since we had a fresh dose of Kourin being a pompous dork. How nostalgic!

XzazUpsilon Since: Apr, 2015
#126928: May 25th 2015 at 4:49:38 PM

when is alice coming back from the war

Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#126929: May 25th 2015 at 4:54:28 PM

You are totally to blame for this, Hylarn. I haven't filked before but I just couldn't get it out of my head until it was finished

My dastardly scheme succeeded!

Link is down, was it this picture?

Yes

Forbidden Scrollery 27!

Kourin is a moron

Not the most coherent of chapters; Harukawa isn't good at indicating the passage of time

And, of course, Kosuzu is actively interested in becoming a youkai

when is alice coming back from the war

????

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#126930: May 25th 2015 at 6:32:13 PM

"Systematization" sounds kind of awkward in this chapter. Especially since it's not a common word yet both Rinnosuke and Reimu are using it. Maybe "codification" or "formalization"?

They both say it in English, so that's how I defaulted. Not necessarily the only way to do it, but they do both use the same kind-of-odd word.

Is, uh... is this the only way to phrase it? "Something more selfish" maybe?

I figured she was making a direct reference to the vulgar spirits. Yeah, it sounds funny, but that makes it a joke, imo. Also, my dictionary didn't list any other synonyms for that word. Not that that means they don't exist.

edited 25th May '15 6:33:27 PM by Clarste

Caprice Since: Jun, 2010
#126931: May 25th 2015 at 7:40:28 PM

"Base"? Or maybe "low", or I guess "earthy"? Given the context you could probably work with "common", but that's adding a little more connotation. It seems like most words for this concept are pretty old-fashioned and have had their meaning drift. I kinda like "base".

That said, "vulgar" sounds better in the context of vulgar spirits than it does with Kosuzu's vulgar question; her line at the end sounds funny, but it's also clearly referencing the earlier stuff. It's at least an issue of style more than comprehensibility.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#126932: May 25th 2015 at 7:48:46 PM

They are. Very readable, though. If you're interested, Clarste might have a link?

The links are best preserved here: [1] Just scroll down, it's pretty much all I post about.

Antimatter625 Baring hearts for years from my secret place Since: Jan, 2012
Baring hearts for years
#126933: May 25th 2015 at 7:53:26 PM

Ahhh, I missed Rinnosuke's amazing logic derails. He's not a moron. He just lives with one foot grounded in the world of human reality and the other in the crazy strange existence of youkai, where belief is power.

Also I just realized the art and context makes it seem like Kosuzu's been sitting in the Seiza position for hours, which is fairly impressive. Marisa of course sits cross-legged because she's crude and unrefined. Such a Rascal.

I wonder what Kosuzu intended to ask. Probably something relating to her interest in youkai. Marisa's already shown herself to be willing to be complicit in shadier stuff (See also: 'Evil Dragon'.) So I think Kosuzu was counting on Marisa to keep her question quiet. But when Reimu showed up it ruined everything.

Divine spirits or spirits that failed to become youkai... Reimu doesn't seem sure? So... proto-youkai are fairly similar to divine spirits, which are in turn fairly similar to vulgar spirits? I feel like I need a refresher on the difference between vulgar and divine spirits... Divine spirits are like... ascended humans of a sort, while vulgar spirits are the manifestations of desire?

Which means that proto-youkai being potentially confused with divine spirits means either that Byakuren's thinking that gods and youkai aren't so different after all has a lot of ground... or that Reimu's intuition is more of a spider-sense than a spirit sight, where she can sense 'something' is there, but not exactly what. Which does seem to be how it's been portrayed in FS...

Kourin is a moron

"Systematization"

I think it's a decent translation. I mean, 'codification' might be a bit closer, but its not any less obscure of a word. 'Standardization' might be a more common word, but isn't quite as accurate. And also it's apparently also the word they actually use so keep it in.

Page 258, panel 4: "Oujia's a foreigner". I doubt I would have noticed if it weren't spelled right the other 8 times it shows up on that page.

edited 25th May '15 7:54:37 PM by Antimatter625

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#126934: May 25th 2015 at 8:01:05 PM

Ahhh, I missed Rinnosuke's amazing logic derails.

Personally, I didn't realize how much I needed it in my life until he started talking.

I actually have no idea what a vulgar spirit is. In TD, some people call them divine spirits and other people call them vulgar spirits, but it's not clear if it was supposed to be a "reveal" or what. Also, of course, divine spirits also include beings like Kanako, so...

Here, though, it seems like a vulgar spirit is just the ghost of a rat or something? Since it would know about food stores. Or is it the wish of a rat? And then another one ended up attached the Ouija board and was even transported overseas.

Reimu was "surprised", so apparently she didn't even notice the divine spirits (?) in Suzunaan until she actually tried to invoke one, so whatever she has its not just passive spirit sight. Except she totally saw some gods in WaHH without realizing they were gods? And she actually invoked a vulgar spirit anyway...?

So, yeah, that's how it is.

Not the most coherent of chapters; Harukawa isn't good at indicating the passage of time

What, specifically, did you find confusing? Mostly they use dialog cues to show the passage of time, so that'd be my fault.

edited 25th May '15 8:15:05 PM by Clarste

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#126935: May 25th 2015 at 9:54:22 PM

Okay so hey guys I just found out that U Li L has released and I just began playing it and I just completed Miko's story after doing Marisa and Kasen and

Why the fuck is Byakuren a biker.

MetaflarePrime Yubi yubi! from Bed Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Yubi yubi!
#126936: May 25th 2015 at 9:56:04 PM

because hell yea

"Have a good day. Have a good week. Have a good month. Have a good year. Have a good life." ~Civia
MachThreeSlug Since: Dec, 2011
#126937: May 25th 2015 at 10:05:12 PM

[up][up]Because she's the turbo granny from hell! *guitar riff*

Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#126938: May 25th 2015 at 10:05:20 PM

Her urban legend of choice is "turbo granny"

Try to ignore that the turbo granny traditionally runs on all fours

What, specifically, did you find confusing? Mostly they use dialog cues to show the passage of time, so that'd be my fault.

Eh? No, what I was complaining about was that the passage of time was mostly indicated through dialogue cues rather than the art

edited 25th May '15 10:10:48 PM by Hylarn

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
feeling blue
#126939: May 25th 2015 at 10:08:00 PM

I didn't know turbo granny was a thing. Learn something new everyday I guess.

So far I'm finding this one a lot better than HM though I'm still getting used to the different inputs from my usual HM combos.

Also reading the translated text in the wiki and having Nitori ask "You want me to hand over my balls?" made me giggle and I feel so immature for this tongue

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#126941: May 26th 2015 at 4:35:30 AM

[up][up]They says "balls" constantly, so you're not the only one. Actually, someone made a collage out of it.

I think in the long run we'd probably be better off changing it to orbs or something.

Edit: Found it: [1] Huh, that has the exact same number of notes as my ULiL plot summary...

edited 26th May '15 4:41:18 AM by Clarste

Hylarn (Don’t ask)
Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#126943: May 26th 2015 at 4:42:17 AM

We can still call them Occult Balls when the say the full name, just switch it up a bit in the rest of the dialog.

TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Shocking Gun!
#126944: May 26th 2015 at 6:14:26 AM

[up][up] The balls are inert.

I just realized an implication of Nitori calling that she is selling balls.

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
atrican Warning! from Dumpster of History Since: Jun, 2012
Warning!
#126945: May 26th 2015 at 6:23:51 AM

ULiL patch 1.03 has been released. Other than gameplay tweaks, it also added a camera flash to Sumireko's selfie-taking.

Meanwhile, here's ULiL generic patcher 1.1. It has removed one further check from the program, which should prevent some other crashes. http://1drv.ms/1Kx7rrl

edited 26th May '15 6:24:25 AM by atrican

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atrican Warning! from Dumpster of History Since: Jun, 2012
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#126946: May 26th 2015 at 6:59:26 AM

>balls

I suspect, but cannot be sure to what extent, that the silliness of everyone keeping saying "balls balls" was part of the intention. I dunno. Haven't got the time to give the script a thorough check.

>systematization

For replacement, "proceduralize" and "proceduralization"? These words are even longer lol. I think in their dialog, they can just say "turn into a system/procedural", etc.

Or we can just replace with "formalize" and "formalization".

>vulgar spirit

The trouble with 低俗霊/俗霊 is that it seems to be a pseudoscience terminology, rather than proper religious theory with a long history, which makes researching it difficult. When searching the word, the only thing that consistently turns up is a manga series named after it. (WARNING: while the page I linked is safe for work, the actual manga cover art may be not)

I feel "vulgar spirit" is an appropriate enough translation. Kosuzu's line can be tweaked, e.g. "less noble," "less high-minded".

edited 26th May '15 7:03:57 AM by atrican

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#126947: May 26th 2015 at 7:30:59 AM

To be honest, I don't see anything wrong with "systematization" in the first place? Like, why is that a problem for people?

edited 26th May '15 7:31:11 AM by Clarste

atrican Warning! from Dumpster of History Since: Jun, 2012
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#126948: May 26th 2015 at 8:43:35 AM

[up]I don't have a strong opinion about the word, but I do have some idea about what seems off.

"To systematize" is most commonly used in "to systematize knowledge", i.e. organizing scattered pieces of knowledge into something coherent and systematic.

What システム化 seems to mean here is instead "to build a system for performing a certain task". The "system" here is not a system of knowledge, but an efficient, repeatable method (Ouija board) for said task (calling spirits). An example.

edited 26th May '15 8:44:09 AM by atrican

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