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hnd03 Parasol Star Memories from [REDACTED] Since: Jun, 2009
Parasol Star Memories
#78101: Oct 5th 2012 at 7:30:47 PM

[up][up] I'm not entirely sure she was being serious when she said that. Looking at the translation, she was acting rather lighthearted, albeit with a grim sense of humor. PoFV shows her as being somewhat of a Troll towards everyone except for maybe Eiki in her scenario.

I feel like I've said this before.

edited 5th Oct '12 8:15:17 PM by hnd03

So. Let's all pause for a moment to smell what the Rock was, is, and forever will be... cooking.—Cave Johnson
tryourbreast Death by Yuyuko Moeness Since: May, 2012
Death by Yuyuko Moeness
#78102: Oct 5th 2012 at 8:44:40 PM

Isn't Yuuka almost being like Lunarians every time when we discuss it?

edited 5th Oct '12 8:44:51 PM by tryourbreast

A pit of mothingness
Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#78103: Oct 5th 2012 at 8:47:53 PM

There's a few people that are fond of her, a few that're dismissive of her, and a majority that doesn't care all that much. It's nowhere near the pages-long arguments that the lunarians have been known to inspire

MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#78104: Oct 5th 2012 at 9:06:49 PM

Speaking of Lunarians, anyone hazard a guess what they think about the whole situation Gensokyo is in? Or are they still stuck in chilling at Eientei? (And Toyohime still trying to steal rabbits.)

Metaflare MERMAID from Yes Since: Apr, 2011
MERMAID
#78105: Oct 5th 2012 at 9:12:21 PM

if you think that they even give a fuck about whats going on in gensokyo beyond the eientei crew then youre dead wrong

edited 5th Oct '12 9:13:04 PM by Metaflare

"Seriously, don't eat the mermaid. And not just because it's half cannibalism." ~Otherarrow
asellus111 Dragon meido Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Dragon meido
#78106: Oct 5th 2012 at 9:13:46 PM

Yeah, As long as the conflict doesn't affect the moon they probably don't really care about this problem. Plus it involves impure beings like humans.

UTW Since: Oct, 2010
#78107: Oct 5th 2012 at 9:18:40 PM

I don't think not having a stake in the conflict necessarily means non-inclusion. Just don't give them a story mode or at least not one related to the main conflict. That said, I think a Human Village falling into discord would be something of concern to most of Gensokyo's powers, not just those battling for religious favor. Say, Alice goes to the Village for a puppet show, finds something amiss, and gets involved. Or if Reisen shows up to sell medicine. Simple, yes, but it's a reason.

Plus, you always need those who are not associated with the incident, but just so happens to run into the PC, anyway, so why not try and include them?

Of course, I'm talking about if Tasofro can avoid transition issues from the overhaul. Unless they're really that concerned with the narrative, there's no reason not to bring back most of the old fighters, at least. They've been plenty busy otherwise, but they have had 3/4 years to work on this. I am admittedly concerned, as I said earlier, but here's hoping.

Now, highly speculative, as I'm typically wont to do, but for bosses I'm hoping for someone sowing the seed of chaos (wouldn't Seiga be just wonderful?) and someone unrelated to her who takes advantage that and isn't one of the main religious factions.

edited 5th Oct '12 9:23:19 PM by UTW

Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#78108: Oct 5th 2012 at 9:33:59 PM

Speaking of Lunarians, anyone hazard a guess what they think about the whole situation Gensokyo is in? Or are they still stuck in chilling at Eientei? (And Toyohime still trying to steal rabbits.)

They're on the moon busying caring about things that directly concern them

Unless they're really that concerned with the narrative, there's no reason not to bring back most of the old fighters, at least.

Except that there is. Building a new system and creating all of the new sprites takes a lot of work. It makes far more sense to focus on characters that actually have a stake in the plot than to spread themselves thin working on a bunch of characters that don't appear in the main game mode

XionGaTaosenai Some kind of a New Leaf Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Some kind of a New Leaf
#78109: Oct 5th 2012 at 9:52:32 PM

My Thoughts on Touhou 13.5, and what I think it heralds for the future of the Touhou series as a whole.

edited 6th Oct '12 7:11:43 AM by XionGaTaosenai

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#78110: Oct 5th 2012 at 10:02:50 PM

I think you're making way too many assumptions. Why would this incident affect the setting in any appreciable way? It's not even a main series game. That's a pretty bizarre leap of logic. SOPM certainly didn't imply anything would change either. Heck, the whole thing ended with Reimu crashing the party and basically blatantly stating that nothing would be changing. Last I checked, people were somewhat annoyed at that.

XionGaTaosenai Some kind of a New Leaf Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Some kind of a New Leaf
#78111: Oct 5th 2012 at 10:07:25 PM

Are assumptions not what all this speculation is in the end?

I agree it was daft of me to say so much about a few screens and a vague plot synopsis, but at the end of the day I was just bored.

I make video games! Or plan to, anyway.
Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#78112: Oct 5th 2012 at 10:13:59 PM

Well, speculation is one thing, but then you went on to criticize ZUN for something he hasn't actually done yet and is somewhat unlikely to do.

Also, there seems to be a strange implied emphasis on the Human Viillage, as if that's the most important place in Gensokyo. As if other locations exist merely to surround the human village, and while new places can pop in out of nowhere without changing the status quo, a development within the human village is something else entirely. Which seems a bit strange to me, since the Human Village is one of the places we've seen the least of in the first place. It was introduced in IN as the place Keine protects, got a tiny bit of elaboration in PMISS, and that's about it. It's like complaining about Seiga accidentally blowing up the Genbu Marsh. We've kinda known for a while that there's a place called the Genbu Marsh, but it's not like we have any particular attachment to it.

edited 5th Oct '12 10:14:27 PM by Clarste

Metaflare MERMAID from Yes Since: Apr, 2011
MERMAID
#78113: Oct 5th 2012 at 10:19:51 PM

Purplequest update

"Seriously, don't eat the mermaid. And not just because it's half cannibalism." ~Otherarrow
Starx Since: Jan, 2012
#78114: Oct 5th 2012 at 10:22:00 PM

and the shrine maiden who aims for reinstatement.

My guess is this is a new shrine maiden. Possibly a previous Hakurei shrine maiden, evil Reimu or something.

What does Yuuka have? "Genocide is a game~." Unchanging uptight carrot up the ass generic evil.

Her personality is nothing like that in Phantasmagoria of Flower Viewing. I think you are confusing PC-98 Yuuka with Windows Yuuka.

It makes far more sense to focus on characters that actually have a stake in the plot than to spread themselves thin working on a bunch of characters that don't appear in the main game mode

Not really, just look at how they added Meiling to Immaterial and Missing Power. I don't believe she has any story reason to be a usable character. Nor were there a reason for Reisen to be in Scarlet Weather Rhapsody.

However, characters with a stake will more likely be in this new game. So I assume someone from UFO and someone from Ten Desires would be playable.

I believe Youmu will likely be a playable character and likely Yuyuko too. It would be interesting to see Kaguya as a playable in this new game.

I don't think we will likely see any of the manga characters in a fighting game, so no Sunny Milk.

edited 5th Oct '12 10:22:55 PM by Starx

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Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#78115: Oct 5th 2012 at 10:23:57 PM

I was personally hoping that future Touhou fighters would move away from the button-combo reliant gameplay that Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter popularized and put focus on the customizable nature of the Spellcard System as a selling point. But alas, doujin games continue to be annoyingly conservative as always. But if they really are ditching the Spellcard System to make a more conventional fighter, then that at least leaves me an opening to go for if I make my own Touhou Fighting game.

I think you're making an over-large assumption here. While it's more or less guaranteed that we're losing the decks, it doesn't necessarily mean it's moving much closer to a conventional fighter. For one thing, there's some evidence to suggest that it has full vertical movement

Most work in the history of ever has been author-centric, with a central author making the world and the story and consumers reading it.

That's just wrong. It's only in the last few centuries where works have been exclusively tied to their authors

There is a peculiar key component that Touhou has had that makes it work in a fanbase-centric model, that it might lose with the arrival of this game or games after this game, if it continues in this direction: a consistent default state.

Not as important as you'd think. Probably the largest fandom in recent memory was Harry Potter, which lacked this trait

leading to the events of the next, but all the incidents were relatively behind the scenes. All the way up through DS and GFW and even TD, there remained a general “Gensokyo” setting that was relatively unchanged.

Lies. Perfect Memento was a huge shake-up in the way things were perceived

The premise of the game seems to revolve around the people of the Human Village having a massive shift in the way they view and interact with the world around them.

Something here you seem to be over-looking is that this'll be the first time the villagers do anything of note. It's essentially introducing them into canon

edited 6th Oct '12 1:31:16 AM by Hylarn

asellus111 Dragon meido Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Dragon meido
#78116: Oct 5th 2012 at 10:33:39 PM

My guess is this is a new shrine maiden. Possibly a previous Hakurei shrine maiden, evil Reimu or something

Hmm...Kanako was playing with the idea to create a Youkai shrine maiden in SOPM so maybe you are right.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#78117: Oct 5th 2012 at 10:48:01 PM

That was one fantastic purplequest update.

You have no idea what their names are. However, they are ostensibly the three most competent FAIRY MAIDS in the Scarlet Devil Mansion, each with a UNIQUE SPECIAL SKILL that sets her apart from the useless masses. The short-haired one can make the bed WITHOUT A LOT OF WRINKLES, the long-haired one can make some PRETTY DECENT BLUEBERRY MUFFINS, and the one with the glasses is capable of BASIC MATH.

Mad skills.

Also, SDM Glamour Squad.

edited 5th Oct '12 10:49:43 PM by Bocaj

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Horselesshorseman It's time... to STOP! from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Mar, 2011
It's time... to STOP!
#78118: Oct 5th 2012 at 11:21:36 PM

NEXT TIME ON PURPLEQUEST: THERE IS NO PURPLE.

I have no horse, and I must ride. I accomplish unlockments.
hnd03 Parasol Star Memories from [REDACTED] Since: Jun, 2009
Parasol Star Memories
#78120: Oct 6th 2012 at 5:26:11 AM

Ugh I forgot that Tumblr was going through a huge maintenance thing today, so no PQuest for me I guess

edited 6th Oct '12 5:26:21 AM by hnd03

So. Let's all pause for a moment to smell what the Rock was, is, and forever will be... cooking.—Cave Johnson
asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
tryourbreast Death by Yuyuko Moeness Since: May, 2012
Death by Yuyuko Moeness
#78122: Oct 6th 2012 at 5:42:20 AM

Nope. Still not working for me.

A pit of mothingness
DocAstaroth Since: Jan, 2001
#78123: Oct 6th 2012 at 10:04:45 AM

That "Ee ja nai ka" thing is characteristic of ZUN... Again, I learn something new.

So, is this how the conflict will be resolved? Will someone bombard the village with amulets?

edited 6th Oct '12 10:05:00 AM by DocAstaroth

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#78125: Oct 6th 2012 at 11:06:07 AM

As long as nobody gives her access to newspapers, all should be well.

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