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MegaJ Since: Oct, 2009
#1: Dec 3rd 2010 at 8:52:52 PM

I looked through the examples and this trope seems to be detailing two different things: Character and premises that remain after a show has outgrown them. I think a split is in order between those two types of examples; something like Artifact Character and Artifact Premise or Artifact Gimmick or something among those lines.

suedenim Teutonic Tomboy T-Girl from Jet Dream HQ Since: Oct, 2009
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#3: Jan 4th 2011 at 6:16:23 AM

I think it's fine as is. In this particular context, characters, premises, and gimmicks are pretty closely related. It's all "stuff that made sense at the time, but maybe doesn't now."

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cobbystone23 Since: Dec, 1969
#4: Mar 20th 2011 at 7:43:02 PM

But in the case of characters, wouldn't it just be a case of Demoted to Extra?

MC42 Tempus Omnia Iudicat Since: Oct, 2010
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#5: Mar 20th 2011 at 8:20:15 PM

Not necessarily, just a character whose characterization has been left behind as the show or series has changed in tone. Examples are The Undertaker from the WWE, who's a call-back to the cartoony gimmicks of the early 1990s, and Jadzia Dax from Star Trek Deep Space Nine, who had the personality of a Star Trek The Next Generation character in a Darker and Edgier show, though that was likely intentional. Both are major characters who could be considered Artifact Characters.

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deuxhero Micromastophile from FL-24 Since: Jan, 2001
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#6: Apr 28th 2011 at 9:25:00 PM

The problem is that all the split categories tend to be redundant. Yu-Gi-Oh has stuff that qualifies for all 3 originating from when it wasn't about Childrens Card Games for example.

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