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Archivist10 Oh for God's sake! Since: Jan, 2013
Oh for God's sake!
#88501: Oct 23rd 2016 at 1:26:12 PM

By that logic Naruto should be a better ninja than Kaede who not only dresses like a ninaj but carries around a shuriken bigger than herself as if to scream 'I'M A NINJA, IN CASE THE OUTFIT DIDN'T CLUE YOU IN!'

In fact Kotaro counts as a better ninja than Kaede since at least when he fights he can also blend in to a crowd by tucking his ears and tail away

edited 23rd Oct '16 1:27:20 PM by Archivist10

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#88502: Oct 23rd 2016 at 1:27:36 PM

It's a quote from Evangeline. She'll spite vitriol at any setting she can take contact with, Negima first and foremost, and Naruto is no exempted. How often do I bash on Naruto? Naruto is barely ever mentioned in Unequally at all, and no Naruto character has had more than a couple lines at most.

And to be fair to Kaede, she usually only takes the giant shurinken to open field head to head confrontations where it's useless trying to hide.

Ahem.

Did you read the manga?

edited 23rd Oct '16 1:28:43 PM by NapoleonDeCheese

SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#88503: Oct 23rd 2016 at 1:32:48 PM

I'll get you the edits in a few hours. Still in bed trying to wake up.

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#88504: Oct 23rd 2016 at 1:33:30 PM

I mean, Evangeline has outright mocked the existence of To Love Ru aliens (despite all the public evidence of aliens existing, including fucking Galactus), has expressed contempt for the Aa! Megamisama deities, always has a biting coment ready for the Negima magecracy, and IIRC she's badmouthed the Nasuverse-style magi too. She's an equal oportunity hater.

Unlike Naruto, Kaede also spends most of her time in civilian, unsuspicious clothing instead of the same orange jumpsuit Naruto wears as often as Nancy and Sluggo wear the polka dot skirt and the open jacket/stupid hat combo.

edited 23rd Oct '16 1:35:16 PM by NapoleonDeCheese

Archivist10 Oh for God's sake! Since: Jan, 2013
Oh for God's sake!
#88505: Oct 23rd 2016 at 1:34:59 PM

Whether its a quote from Eva is irrelevant, you're the one writing it. And I just mean you do seem to jum at the chance, I remember in that Negima x Kingdom Hearts story you somehow turned a conversation between Kotaro and Deadpool into a chance to jab at Naruto.

Also, Kaede does seem to be a more straightforward fighter in the vein of Rock Lee, Chouji or Kiba rather than the more typical ninja fighting methods like Kakashi or Itachi, rarely using trickery. Hell even Naruto himself, in his own Naruto way, fights more like a ninja than her since trickery is practically his MO.

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#88506: Oct 23rd 2016 at 1:38:40 PM

Deadpool has also mocked everything and everyone he's had interacted with, fucking Mickey Mouse included, because, c'mon, fucking Deadpool. Have you read Deadpool either? I mean, just because he's spent far too longer mocking Wolverine in his dialogue than anything else does that mean I'm an X-Men basher?

When Kaede, who actually grew in the damn village in this continuity, starts badmouthing her people instead of treating them with respect, then write me back on those subjects. Because I freaking remember well trying to write her snippet dealing with her brief visit with Konoha and her childhood flashback meeting Team Seven as actually heartfelt and nostalgic.

Whether its a quote from Eva is irrelevant, you're the one writing it

Yeah, and well, guess what? I write her that way because Evangeline is supposed to be a bitter little smartass. Have you read the manga?

edited 23rd Oct '16 1:41:04 PM by NapoleonDeCheese

Archivist10 Oh for God's sake! Since: Jan, 2013
Oh for God's sake!
#88507: Oct 23rd 2016 at 1:40:41 PM

Actually it was Kotaro who mocked Konoha IIRC in that little conversation.

I am not saying it is not in-character.

edited 23rd Oct '16 1:42:24 PM by Archivist10

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#88508: Oct 23rd 2016 at 1:41:54 PM

I guess the fact every other sentence out of Kotaro's mouth is meant to belittle Negi shows I'm a Negi hater, then.

SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#88509: Oct 23rd 2016 at 1:45:42 PM

You know, I just realized, but. Evangeline has a lot in common with Batman. They both go 'I work alone, I'm too dark and cool for you losers', but they're also the ones who've trained a small squadron of people when most other people have a grand total of one or two people they've trained.

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#88510: Oct 23rd 2016 at 1:48:12 PM

And if you want a fanfic that goes out of its way to fellate Naruto and his cast at every chance, then don't worry, just go look at, um, 90% of all other fanfics who share a continuity with Naruto out there. Like the ones where Naruto and his universe somehow are more than a speck on the Z-Senshi's collective radars.

I don't believe on being a partisan. Unequally may be a Negima fanfic, but if Lala shows up and spars with Negi at this point, then Negi isn't going to be magically able to overpower Lala and instead she will kick his ass without breaking a sweat. Hell, through this chapter Lala seemed to apply more pressure on the Count than Negi did until the very end, and Graf had to resort to threatening Rito to (briefly) keep her out of his case. If anything, in this case Lala kinda took the role Kotaro originally had, because of course, logically, she's going to be stronger and more able to keep up than Kotaro at this point.

edited 23rd Oct '16 1:54:54 PM by NapoleonDeCheese

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#88511: Oct 23rd 2016 at 1:53:49 PM

I am not saying it is not in-character.

Staying more or less in character is the whole point of characterization in a fanfic. Granted, it can be elastic to some degree, since all fanfic is AU to some degree or another, but overall, the whole purpose should be keeping everyone within a reasonable IC range. Kotaro is an Arrogant Kung-Fu Guy of sorts, Evangeline is an old, embittered, cranky soul, Deadpool is a lunatic who would mock anyone. Those characters shouldn't go out of their way to avoid commenting critically on settings/characters that pertain, even tangentially, to anything happening around them at a time just so the fanfic can be politically correct to some audience or another.

edited 23rd Oct '16 1:54:13 PM by NapoleonDeCheese

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#88512: Oct 23rd 2016 at 2:02:55 PM

So, Archivist, you can't help yourself from arguing with me even when I'm actively defending Naruto. This is actually hilarious.

Also, the fact that you instantly turned it around to make it a jab against Negima while at the same time turning to insist that the characters of Naruto are totally Ninja-like (hint: the fact that they frown upon lying and killing people should tell you they're not very ninja-like at all). That's funny too.

[up][up]Incidentally, Lala will soon be running into the problem of her having no realistic way to keep up. Owing mostly to the fact that she's not exactly interested in the martial arts, at least not enough to train to improve at the rate she'd need to in order to stay relevant, and her innate abilities will only carry her so far (especially when you account for the fact that using them too much will drain her energy and leave her in an useless fun-size form).

Gonna have to figure something out there.

edited 23rd Oct '16 2:05:23 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#88513: Oct 23rd 2016 at 2:42:03 PM

Since one of the things I'm trying to do is to find ways for everyone to keep up in their own ways (as opposite to Negima's canon, where only Negi does and everyone else without 'Evangeline' in their name gets left in the dust as oddities), I figured out I might as well try to balance that with the crossover cast. If anything, the crossover elements add to the Negima pool in a way that should enrichen the cast segregation. I call it the Justice League/Avengers factor, in that unlike shounen, superhero teams tend to find ways to keep Batman and Captain America in the same lineups as Martian Manhunter and Thor and make it at least believable with moderate Willing Suspension of Disbelief, while in action manga, as soon as you can't keep up with the Saiyans you become a Yamcha.

The woman was not used to visiting bars, and it showed. She kept on shuddering under the dim lights of the seeding place, hugging her upper torso and cringing at the dirty looks and occasional whistles and wolf calls the patrons shot at her from the nearby tables.

She was gorgeous, tall and shapely and young and golden blond, with a hourglass figure in a fine gray suit, complete with black tie and high heeled shoes, making her stand out even more in the dingy environment of Al's Dinner and Drink Emporium. Even the waitress had her eyes set on her in a way that she didn't like, although far differently than those of the unkempt, smelly men surrounding her from all sides. The waitress' gaze, instead, was cold and calculating, a sneer on the verge of twitching in her lower lip.

"Relax, that's just Arlene. I think she's sweet on me," the gruff voice of the large, muscular male at the other end of her table said, a moment before he took the huge cigar out of his mouth and spat a heart shaped cloud that briefly turned into a skull with crossbones before dissipating. "She ain't into girls, Babe, stop being so scared. I shoulda know. She turned me off when I asked her t' make out with another chick fer me. Haw!"

"Screw you, Lobo," the waitress snarled at him before storming back into the kitchen, shaking her head all the way.

"And," the grinning man, as pale as Death but much more unlikable leaned over the table, his bushy black eyebrow twitching suggestively for the blonde, "you don't hafta fear from these wimps either. They all know, th' second they mess with a customer of the Main Man... or one of his women, that's the moment they're frickin' fragged!" He slammed his gigantic fist on the table, making the blonde shriek, and shouted, "AIN'T THAT RIGHT, DUDES?!"

"Y-Yeah, Lobo!"

"Of course we wouldn't, ever, Lobo!"

"Whatever you say, Main Man, you rule!"

"See?" the hairy, towering killer for hire grinned nastily, leaning back on his chair and inhaling again from his cigar. "Talk as freely as ya want, Babe. None of these dweebs gonna squeal to the coppers. They know not even the hellpits of Apokolips compare to what the Main Man does to those who turn on him."

"I, I, I know, too," the woman sheepishly said, lowering her gaze, then nervously pushing her sliding glasses back up her tiny nose. "Um, I don't want anyone killed off, really."

Lobo grunted, then poked a thumb towards the door. "Th' Grl Scouts' headquarters are down the street, lady. Wait, no, I fragged 'em last week, cum ta think about it. Their fault, those cookies were really crappy."

The blonde shuddered in terror but composed herself back as best as she could, stammering, "I, I, I just wanted to hire your services as an escort... of sorts... for a rescue mission."

"Ah, I see. That, I can do, as long as ya don't wanna tell me I can't frag any dweebs who get in our way. I really hate it when they try ta pull that on me."

She swallowed hard. "I'd prefer it if... th-there was as little violence as possible. You know, to, ah, avoid unwise confrontations with the local authorities. Just, just, a merely pragmatic thing. Of sorts."

He studied her with mild contempt, scary red eyes narrowed, until he chose to just stare at her chest instead, and he shrugged. "Meh. I've had worse milk runs, I guess. I think I can understand if a chick wants to avoid annoyin' hassles with the coppers, some of those guys are swine. Not all men can be as gentlemannish as the Main Man," he chuckled, scratching himself in the crotch. "Okay, spill it, skirt, where to? And who's the one needin' a white knight in black leather?"

"I, I think you know her already, that's also why I've contacted you specifically, sir. It's the Golden Darkness."

"Goldie?!" He blinked several times in great surprise and then slammed a hand on his knee, laughing hysterically. "Of course, you musta be Goldie's mum! No wonder I thought yer smell was familiar! Hmmmm, damn fine lookin' for a mother, too..." He made eyes at her again. "Just like your kiddo..."

She finally gathered enough courage as to pout at him. Still rather cutely, but in a way that made clear she wasn't finding this funny or being fully cowered anymore.

"Although I gotta say she's far more of a spitfire," the big-ass biker shrugged, biting on his cigar. "So she finally turned up after the whole Juraian mess, huh. Where?"

"An, an unadministered world, one few have visited... yourself included, that's yet another reason why I called you. The locals call it Earth, I believe."

"Earth!" the killer said. "Yeah, been there a couple times. That's where the Kryptonian sissy lives. Huh, maybe I shoulda pay him another social visit after I'm done there. I wonder if his lady's still that fine lookin'..." He grinned lecherously to himself, briefly lost in unprintable thoughts.

"Then, then you will do it?"

"Sure, why not? Gonna be fun meetin' up with Goldie again, in any case. It's always great to make her squirm and slam axes on my head. Awright, Babe, we're good ta go. Shake it?" he chuckled, extending a huge hand gloved in black to her.

Tearju Lunatique doubted, trembling from head to toe, before extending her own delicate, small hand over, and then having it enveloped by the gigantic one shaking it so hard, for a moment she thought she'd lose everything from the wrist down, crushed in his grip.

"So, are you single?" he asked.

—-

Magic is what you want it to be.

Lesson Four.

Ghosts of the Past.

edited 23rd Oct '16 2:46:33 PM by NapoleonDeCheese

SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#88514: Oct 23rd 2016 at 4:28:58 PM

Out of curiousity, where do you see Lala, on a rating scale between, say, DCAU Superman and Tobey Maguire Spiderman?

LightningLancer Even in these times, Life goes on from Firelink Shrine Since: Sep, 2016 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
Even in these times, Life goes on
#88515: Oct 23rd 2016 at 4:59:25 PM

Somewhere less than All Might but definitely more than cartoon Ultimate Spider-man.

'If you fall seven times, stand up eight.' The cry of the Undead.
SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#88516: Oct 23rd 2016 at 5:12:12 PM

All Might is actually more nuanced in his use of strength than Superman. He's got a lot of air pressure tricks.

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#88517: Oct 23rd 2016 at 5:12:17 PM

Maybe around the same level as DCAU Supergirl, although technically Supergirl should still be far faster.

LightningLancer Even in these times, Life goes on from Firelink Shrine Since: Sep, 2016 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
Even in these times, Life goes on
#88518: Oct 23rd 2016 at 5:26:33 PM

Does Negima ever dwell on the origins of half-demon children, or simply handwave it? It would be interesting to delve into how half-demon children are fathered between demons and humans, and how they discover their heritage.

'If you fall seven times, stand up eight.' The cry of the Undead.
SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#88519: Oct 23rd 2016 at 5:29:03 PM

Well, when a demon and human love each other very much...

Hey OM, which one of the magic knights has Captain America's shield?

LightningLancer Even in these times, Life goes on from Firelink Shrine Since: Sep, 2016 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
Even in these times, Life goes on
#88520: Oct 23rd 2016 at 5:35:59 PM

[up]I know that part, I'm asking how are they raised, when are they taught how to use their powers or if they have any innate abilities they already know. Did Mana learn her abilties as a half-demon in her time as a child or later in her teenage years (I refuse to believe she isn't a young adult in the manga). And what about Setsuna? Does she know instinctively how to fly or use her wings or did she learn how to use them in her time apart from Konoka while training?

Jeez I know the birds and bees, Jesus. I'm not that sheltered. Hell I've seen too much porn to say that.

'If you fall seven times, stand up eight.' The cry of the Undead.
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#88521: Oct 23rd 2016 at 5:49:01 PM

Dude, Mana's 14. As much as you might hate to believe it, she's still 14.

Furthermore, I'd imagine that, since the only real difference between demons and humans is that of physical form and place of residence... I don't think it's all that different from normal, every day couples.

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LightningLancer Even in these times, Life goes on from Firelink Shrine Since: Sep, 2016 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
Even in these times, Life goes on
#88522: Oct 23rd 2016 at 5:57:31 PM

Okay. Mana's 14. Fine. No problem. I find issue with being able to wield the giant sniper rifle one handed though. That shot my Suspension of Disbelief through the heart.

I'm so sorry.

I'm really not.

edited 23rd Oct '16 5:57:52 PM by LightningLancer

'If you fall seven times, stand up eight.' The cry of the Undead.
SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#88523: Oct 23rd 2016 at 6:11:04 PM

Magic-using Puerto Rican half demon.

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#88524: Oct 23rd 2016 at 6:21:37 PM

Mage: Yukino is the one with the shield. Hikaru already knows fire magic, and Nanami's at least got Derflinger, so until Yukino can learn wind magic as the Fuu equivalent, she at least has the shield with herself. And that's why Hikaru's the one who has to shield herself with a plank of wood, being that she can't bring herself to hurt poor critters. Yukino's still nowhere enough as strong or skilled as to throw the shield or use it to do anything but blocking.

By the way, Kirara wasn't brought along because it's a mission against a Beastmaster, and unlike Happy, she's too dangerous to have her turned against you. That, in-story, but metatextually because I wanted to have at least one chance to include the 'Natsu is terrified of traveling in a train' gag.

edited 23rd Oct '16 6:22:32 PM by NapoleonDeCheese

MrElijah Since: Jan, 2015
#88525: Oct 23rd 2016 at 6:21:58 PM

Oh lord, Lobo is coming. Da Main Man always brings the hijinx.

And I just have to think: The Cosmic part of URAE; Jurai, New Gods, Space Pirates, Kree, Skrulls, Deviluke, Thanagar. The Green Lanterns, GXP, Nova Corps must have their work cut out for them.

Hell if Quasar exist in URAE his would be under insane stress to Protect this universe.


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