Rename: The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance

The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance is named for a work.

EDIT: Crowner

edited 10th Apr '10 8:58:49 AM by DragonQuestZ

The Shooter No One Sees?

Who Shot Me?

Could still keep the film as the Trope Namer. He Shot Liberty Valance?

DQZ, how is that any better at all? Lol.

Well, it's not the name of the work.

If you wanted to retain the reference, He Who Shot Liberty Valance sounds good

edited 7th Feb '10 11:46:33 AM by KnownUnknown

But it makes the title no less opaque. Maybe if there was a question mark or something - "Who Shot Liberty Valence?" - it'd at least give the impression that there's doubt about which character did the killing.

I like The Shooter No One Sees.

Actually He Shot Liberty Valance.

Should I make a crowner?

crowner is premature. I think we need some more discussion to see if we can find a title that doesn't reference Liberty Valance.

Although that is an extremely famous example of this trope, and is commonly cited as a "Who Shot Liberty Valance Scenario"

Which by the way is also a possible rename.

"I think we need some more discussion to see if we can find a title that doesn't reference Liberty Valance."

It's not referencing that's the issue. It's having the exact name. Or maybe that's what you meant and the wording just seems wonky to me.

Either way, Who Shot Liberty Valance is a good one.

Needs a more literal redirect at least. John Wayne was a cultural icon, but of the last generation. This one, not so much. And the title sounds like a whodunit trope.

Uncredited Shooter?

edited 14th Feb '10 11:49:11 PM by Elle

I like the existing title, despite it being a work title, because the work itself is just such a perfect distillation of the trope. It's literally the entire point of the movie.

The problem is that it creates confusion.

The Man On The Grassy Knoll.

C'mon, you're all thinkin' it. :)

The Man On The Grassy Knoll would be misused frequently. Which sucks because that's a pretty good name.

If it's just the full-title copy that's a problem, Liberty Valance Shooter?

edited 19th Feb '10 1:46:47 PM by jfpbookworm

But Liberty Valance doesn't mean anything unless you know the work in question.

That's why I like Actually He Shot Liberty Valance, since it gives context.

Bump.

I like The Shooter No One Sees

edited 11th Mar '10 4:00:45 AM by TheOneWhoTropes

Why not just create a separate "Work" page for the movie and put a link to it on the "Trope" page?

edited 23rd Mar '10 6:52:19 PM by BlueIce-Tea

The problem is that the name isn't very clear about what the trope is about.