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KazuyaProta Shin Megami Tensei IV from A Industrial Farm Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
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#19152: Jul 22nd 2017 at 9:25:33 PM

@Omega: another person I discussed the game with mentioned that. Yamato has a workable plan on resolving the crisis. It's pragmatic. Also deeply selfish and immoral.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#19153: Jul 22nd 2017 at 9:33:54 PM

I can see why people would side against Ronaldo. He's let his emotions towards Yamato completely cloud his actions, whereas Yamato, ruthless dude though he is, is mostly more cool headed...at least until the Hero comes onto the scene.

Also, I never got an answer to my question.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#19154: Jul 22nd 2017 at 9:47:13 PM

[up]Yeah I think that's the final dungeon.

edited 22nd Jul '17 9:47:18 PM by Moth13

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#19155: Jul 22nd 2017 at 9:55:03 PM

Shit. I really shouldn't stop trying to get Chemtrail then. I don't want to have to start all over again...

Well, ok, I will be doing that anyway, but it's gotta wait.

Back to Shinjuku Park.sad

Man, what a damn slog, but if I don't do at least a few of them now, I'll have to do all of them at once later, and that's far worse.

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HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
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#19156: Jul 23rd 2017 at 5:35:37 PM

Exit Belial. He was easy. Took only one try.

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
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#19158: Jul 23rd 2017 at 5:55:02 PM

[up] That's the first Devil Survivor.

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#19159: Jul 23rd 2017 at 7:31:28 PM

Oh. When you brought him up, I assumed you were talking about Desu 1.

Forgot you're playing Desu 2.

...kinda wrecks the entire joke...

...dammit.

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ComicX6 Since: Jan, 2010
#19160: Jul 23rd 2017 at 8:17:39 PM

Yeah, Belial's a piece of cake in that game. His gimmick is just fire and more fire so he's super-easy to handle compared to Nebiros's escort mission, Lilith's meat shields, and Megidoladyne.

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HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
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#19161: Jul 23rd 2017 at 8:47:37 PM

Nebiros's level is up there with the FE Conquest finale as one of the hardest strategy game missions I've played. A level 80 boss that can regenerate showing up when you're level 25 and it's a save-the-suicidal-civilians mission? Yeesh.

edited 23rd Jul '17 9:18:15 PM by HamburgerTime

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
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#19162: Jul 24th 2017 at 5:50:58 PM

Have to say I'm liking Ronaldo less this run for some reason. Though I still think the others jump to conclusions about him too easily.

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#19163: Jul 24th 2017 at 6:03:08 PM

And where exactly are you at right now?

HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
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#19164: Jul 24th 2017 at 6:03:34 PM

Just removed the stakes.

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
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#19165: Jul 25th 2017 at 3:20:42 PM

Meet Demeter! Well-drawn, but I have no idea why she's a short little fairy girl. She looks younger than her daughter Persephone!

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
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#19166: Jul 25th 2017 at 6:25:55 PM

So uh...

Advice for Beelzebub? I think he's actually harder than Nebiros. Is level 65 too low to fight him?

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#19167: Jul 25th 2017 at 6:33:18 PM

I think it's slightly too low. I would recommend being at least level 70 as Beelzebub has Holy Strike, which is a really good skill for physical attackers.

Beelzebub also has a tricky gimmick to the battle: he shifts elements, and the element he uses has appropriate demon teams that use them.

edited 25th Jul '17 6:34:45 PM by CybranGeneralSturm

HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
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#19168: Jul 25th 2017 at 6:35:40 PM

I realize that, and every time I attack him, he warps in four new guys and resets all my progress. That's my brick wall here.

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#19169: Jul 25th 2017 at 6:41:25 PM

You should have an elemental spell on your guys and at least one team should have a physical skill because Beelzebub can shift his elemental attacks to Physical in addition to Fire, Ice, Elec, and Force.

This battle, at least in the Septentrion Arc, is the only way to crack Holy Strike so make sure to have everyone skill crack it even if they cannot learn it.

edited 25th Jul '17 6:42:48 PM by CybranGeneralSturm

HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
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#19170: Jul 25th 2017 at 6:44:27 PM

I think I may have to upgrade my trusty Pierce/Anti-Most/Deathbound-having Arioch. I really like him. sad

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#19171: Jul 25th 2017 at 6:45:24 PM

Right. I may just finish my Law run and go for Chemtrail and most of the other Fiends during my Chaos Run. I really don't want to put it off, but maybe if I start fresh on a new route and give myself more to do, I can do it a little better.

What do you guys think? Should I at least keep trying to get Chemtrail, or give up and just finish things?

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CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#19172: Jul 25th 2017 at 6:47:50 PM

[up][up]Huh. Oh yeah, and Beelzebub nulls Curse so no status ailments. You could use Almighty if you really want to put the hurt on the fly no matter what resistances are up, Hamburger.

[up] Did you bag Trumpeter? You won't be able to get him on Chaos.

edited 25th Jul '17 6:48:42 PM by CybranGeneralSturm

HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
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#19173: Jul 25th 2017 at 6:49:50 PM

Megaten Wikia claims he has an in-built resistance to Almighty despite not having Anti-Almighty (and ergo is literally cheating tongue). That true?

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#19174: Jul 25th 2017 at 6:52:59 PM

I suppose he does (although I usually grind up to the Level 80-90 range just to make sure that he feels the pain). Due to Ultimate Hit, he also has almighty-based normal attacks.

edited 25th Jul '17 6:53:54 PM by CybranGeneralSturm

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#19175: Jul 25th 2017 at 6:54:09 PM

[up][up][up]

Shit. I don't. Maybe I'll change gears and go for Trumpeter instead. He's supposed to be in the forest right?

edited 25th Jul '17 6:54:21 PM by HandsomeRob

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