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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#18226: May 19th 2017 at 1:02:35 PM

So I'm playing through the third Kalpa in Nocturne and I found a door saying I need a "Dark Reason" to open it. I'm not going for any of the Reason endings. Am I just locked out of whatever's behind that door?

CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#18227: May 19th 2017 at 1:04:46 PM

[up] The doors in the Third Kalpa are not referring to Reasons at all, they're referring to your titles instead. You need to master at least two or more Dark Magatama to change your title to a Dark-aligned one.

edited 19th May '17 1:05:47 PM by CybranGeneralSturm

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#18228: May 19th 2017 at 1:07:36 PM

Well that's going to be annoying to deal with. I've already mastered several Magatama and I don't think I have that many dark aligned ones left.

edit: Then again I have to go back anyway because I can't open the second Magic door or any of the Luck doors.

Also fuck Dante and his puzzle bullshit.

edited 19th May '17 1:08:09 PM by Kostya

CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#18229: May 19th 2017 at 1:14:01 PM

[up] Are you pursuing the TDE? If so, the Magatama that you get at the start happens to be Dark-aligned. The Luck area also has the Neutral Door, which only has a Shady Broker that sells Deathstones for 100K Macca each.

Agreed about Dante.

edited 19th May '17 1:15:53 PM by CybranGeneralSturm

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#18230: May 19th 2017 at 1:19:06 PM

I'm going for Freedom right now but I'm going to make a save right before the final dungeon. After I beat the game I'll come back to it eventually and do the TDE ending using that save. I just want to get as much done as possible.

CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#18231: May 19th 2017 at 1:42:59 PM

[up]That makes sense. If I recall correctly, reasons only affect a single door in the Fifth Kalpa, which will only give you its treasure if you're on the TDE.

Kara MONSTER COACH Since: Aug, 2013
MONSTER COACH
#18232: May 20th 2017 at 4:42:32 AM

Got Hagen, done with the White run. It actually might be my favourite ending. Not because I agree with the White, but because it actually made me feel something. Burroughs's "Master, I passive-agressively disagree, but I'm with you until the end" really got to me.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#18233: May 20th 2017 at 7:00:16 AM

How many endings have you done?

Kara MONSTER COACH Since: Aug, 2013
MONSTER COACH
#18234: May 20th 2017 at 12:51:46 PM

Three. Only Chaos remains.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#18235: May 20th 2017 at 12:55:42 PM

Right. So Lilith is dead.

I'll likely go and check if that damn Wind Generator has finally showed up, and if not, I'll just go through the reactor for a bit. If push comes to shove, I'll just try it later after I've gone full law if I can.

One Strip! One Strip!
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#18236: May 20th 2017 at 10:28:45 PM

Holy muffins.

I finally got the Generator. That's all the challenge Quests I had left down. Now I'm at Ichigaya finally.

Soon, I'll be serving up some Law.

One Strip! One Strip!
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
Cross Since: Aug, 2012
#18239: May 20th 2017 at 11:35:25 PM

You, the alternative would have been "Good luck on your genocide mission".

edited 20th May '17 11:36:13 PM by Cross

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#18240: May 21st 2017 at 8:30:43 AM

[up]

Oh. Well thanks. I'll do my best.

Plus, it's Shin Megami Tensei. You're committing genocide nearly 2 out of three times anyway.

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#18241: May 23rd 2017 at 1:24:46 PM

Been playing DDS 2. I've clocked about 22 hours and am surprised at how fast things escalated, I just got Serph back and it feels I'm almost at endgame now. I'm pondering over what endgame party I should use; I had to grind up Cielo since the party rotates a lot more in this game, and it's been fun using him, but he's still 10 levels under Gale, Serph and Sera which makes me think I should just take those three instead.

Kara MONSTER COACH Since: Aug, 2013
MONSTER COACH
#18242: May 24th 2017 at 9:13:02 AM

Invest in Cielo instead of Sera.

edited 24th May '17 9:13:33 AM by Kara

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#18243: May 24th 2017 at 2:49:48 PM

So I'm now in Infernal Tokyo.

If I recall right, there are no Challenge Quests here, so once I'm done in Shinjuku, I'll take on Kenji. After that I just have to tell the White to shove their heads up their asses and I'll be heading into uncharted territory. How long afterwards do I have to go before I get to the route split?

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dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#18244: May 24th 2017 at 2:53:00 PM

[up]No, there are Challenge Quests in Infernal Tokyo. First one should be trying to find a TV or something like that.

Route split happens right after you complete Infernal Tokyo and refuse to play ball with the White.

edited 24th May '17 2:53:40 PM by dragonfire5000

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#18245: May 24th 2017 at 3:00:08 PM

...Hmm. I don't remember that. Did I miss it?

Well, I'll check after I'm done in Shinjuku.

Good to know about the split though.

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dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#18246: May 24th 2017 at 3:13:20 PM

There are a few sidequests in Infernal Tokyo, and some of them unlock after you defeat Mahamayuri. There's also a sidequest you can only get from talking to demons there (only one of these side quests, I think, though I may be mistaken).

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#18247: May 24th 2017 at 3:38:34 PM

Interesting. I don't remember that when I was shooting for the White ending before. I'll check around before I leave this time.

Thanks.

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asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#18248: May 24th 2017 at 8:16:34 PM

After you get Serph back I think there're only two dungeons left in the game?

'Course, one of them's super long.

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Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, Bitch! from Eldritch Nightmareland Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Face me now, Bitch!
#18249: May 25th 2017 at 6:48:42 AM

I can't be the only one who finds it amusing that the DDS Duology in some ways Darker then the mainline series at times?

It's something I noticed playing them.

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Tarsen Since: Dec, 2009
#18250: May 25th 2017 at 9:41:33 AM

i wouldnt say its all that darker, beyond the fact that the characters become stronger via cannibalization.

its a very down-beat story, but when you get right down to it, it never really shows you the misery that smt4 does at basically all times below mikado.


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