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3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#16901: Jul 12th 2016 at 1:36:47 PM

[up][up].....*quiet but deep giggling*

Honestly compels me to point out that Babylon 5 is the Trope Namer for Wham Episode and Nothing Is the Same Anymore.

I am sure this is purely incidental.

edited 12th Jul '16 2:13:43 PM by 3of4

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asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#16902: Jul 12th 2016 at 1:57:32 PM

The other-viewpoint short stories have been fun little diversions so far. Presumably it's post SG, so it'll be the first time we've had a Knight's viewpoint, which could be interesting.

edited 12th Jul '16 1:58:15 PM by asterism

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RBomber Since: Nov, 2010
#16903: Jul 12th 2016 at 6:03:55 PM

[up][up] So, who is Mollari? Who is G'Kar? Will everyone united against The Shadow Outsider? Is the Church the Mimbari? tongue

Also, on Nothing Is the Same Anymore:

Nothing is the same anymore.

I mean, 3 years ago, if anyone trying to bother Maggie, I'll cut their hands and exterminate their species. And everything will be fine.

...Well, fine-ish.

Now, I have to deal with headache of being reasonable parents, dealing with school system, dealing with other parents, dealing with teachers, PTA, bullies parents, social workers and the likes, and that school administration has no sense of fashion.

I mean, seriously?! No duster on school ground?!

edited 12th Jul '16 6:05:05 PM by RBomber

SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#16904: Jul 12th 2016 at 6:08:20 PM

She needs to change schools right away! No DUSTER? BLASPHEMY!

Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#16905: Jul 12th 2016 at 6:09:28 PM

It's all a trap! Get him used to that, strip him of some of his protection, get him in an environment he will be afraid to cut lose, and then send a hit squad for him,

RBomber Since: Nov, 2010
#16906: Jul 12th 2016 at 11:28:16 PM

On Wham Episode:

"DADDYYY!! HEELP MEE!!"

When you heard your little girl scream for her life, there's nothing you can do but to rise to challenge. Even if means goes busting through 3 magic-reinforced walls that you can sure can withstand anything sort of saturated artillery barrage, with nothing but pure guts.

...Okay, and a bit of Winter Mantle.

"MAGGIE?! MAGGIE?! ARE YOU... okay...?"

I look at around her. She seems... okay, I guess,

"Maggie? Maggie? My dear, what happened? Some kind of water monster? Mirror creature? ...Cockroach?"

Well, she was on bathroom, FYI. And cockroaches are nasty business, I'm telling you.

Well, at least she seems fine. Seems.

"...Uh, ...It's ...okay"

But she hides something.

"Maggie, it's okay. You can tell me. I won't angry or something like that. Please. What happened?"

"...but..."

"It's okay Maggie, I'm your father. What's bothering you, honey?"

"...I'm bleeding."

Well, she's injured and panic. That's certainly embarassing. And I'm fairly sure that's I'm not laughing. Just smiling. From relief.

"Well, that's okay. At least you're not injured in-"

"I... I mean, I'm bleeding. In... that"

Okay, that's sound serious.

"Okay, what you mean by that?"

"...that....there"

"Um, honey, what do you mean by th-"

At that point, I realized. She's a girl. She's in that age. Which could mean-

"What she means, Boss, is that she know has blossomed into-"

"BOB. SHUT. UP"

I'm not sure if the temperatures goes down, but I think that's simply because the dampness. Definitely the dampness.

"Am I, am I going to be okay?"

Sigh. Here it is. The bane of a girl single father.

But I'll do it. I'll move heaven and breaks hell just to make her safe. A little embarrassment was nothing. Nothing at all.

"You'll be okay. You'll certainly be okay."

Nothing at all.

"I'll make sure of it"

"...Thanks, daddy."

Everything will be fine.

"Also, Daddy?"

"Yeah?"

"Where is your pants?"

3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#16907: Jul 13th 2016 at 6:21:30 AM

Is that from the chapter or fanfic? Not sure the time frame fits for that yet? She should only reach the double digits by now.

edited 13th Jul '16 6:22:01 AM by 3of4

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RBomber Since: Nov, 2010
#16908: Jul 13th 2016 at 11:41:02 AM

No, all of them just speculation. Fanfic, if you prefer that term. tongue

Druplesnubb Editor of Posts Since: Dec, 2013
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#16909: Jul 14th 2016 at 1:01:32 PM

Some days ago someone posted a bunch of info from Jim about the various stories he's working on (including a spinoff about Maggie and two short stories involving Butters and Luccio). Anyone know where I can get the full transcript?

math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#16910: Jul 14th 2016 at 1:03:25 PM

[up] info here

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#16911: Jul 22nd 2016 at 8:54:21 PM

Also apparently Jim's show of choice for writing Peace Talks (like Ocean's Eleven for Skin Game) was Babylon 5.

Okay, now I need this book to be published.

SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#16912: Jul 24th 2016 at 4:07:10 PM

I haven't felt like this about a book coming out (good and bad) since the since the Wheel Of Time series.

Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#16913: Jul 26th 2016 at 5:22:52 PM

So I'm finally on Ghost Story. This is fun. Already 205 pages in, where Harry's talking to Lea while those thugs attack Molly.

I am loving the change of perspective on Harry's part. I'm assuming it carries in somewhat to the rest of the series.

Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#16914: Jul 28th 2016 at 2:15:06 PM

Finished Ghost Story this morning and already 165 pages into Cold Days. This week and next I've had a lot of free time at work. I will probably manage to catch up entirely by the end of next week.

Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#16915: Jul 30th 2016 at 7:24:21 PM

Cold Days went down quick. Now I'm onto Skin Game in a couple days when I go back to work. This series is awesome. Harry. Dead? BWAHAHAHAHAHA! People came back from worse things than he did in Stargate SG-1. On a routine basis.

So far I've not seen anything untoward about how Butters progresses. Depending on how the whole Lightsaber thing actually goes down, I don't think there's an issue here. Dead Beat showed that when Butters sets aside his skepticism and accepts that cowardice is the road TO death instead of away from it, he can get involved with the best of them.

I mean, the guy looked around at a cityscape full of Native American warrior ghosts, and accepted that a freakin' circle would keep them from hurting him. While he was running a one-man polka rig. That was controlling a fucking T-Rex's ghost. He's not a day to day badass, but he has his moments.

As for the hot girlfriend, Andi and Marci were taking care of his injuries at the end of Ghost Story, and Andi's last significant other went down fighting. She might WANT someone with enough sense to run away from any fight he couldn't do anything about, as long as he was willing to stand his ground when it was needed. Which Butters has done a few times now. Bonus points for him being the DM who kept her in the RPG spirit after the last one died.

RBomber Since: Nov, 2010
#16916: Jul 31st 2016 at 3:49:17 AM

To be fair, most people complaining not because Butters get Lightsaber, most people complaining because Karrin didn't get her Holy Shikomizue and end up as cripple. With reason that many people feel as flimsy excuse.

Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#16917: Jul 31st 2016 at 4:23:58 AM

That is a fair point, though I remember at least one person going off about how Butters doesn't deserve any of it.

math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#16918: Jul 31st 2016 at 5:29:06 AM

I don't really have any objections based on whether or not Butters 'earned it.' I don't think he did, but that's mostly because of the fact that most of Butters' character development happens when we, the audience, can't see it. He learns not to be a coward in Dead Beat, he has appearances after that based around his mad meatball surgery skills, and then at some point he becomes something out of a 90's cartoon, complete with a freaking skateboard.

My primary objection is that it seems like really overt pandering in a series where the pandering is usually kept at least somewhat tasteful. Usually the series has been pretty good about keeping the nerd appeal to pop culture references and otherwise trying for a somewhat serious (albeit punctuated by levity and comedy) tone. Then all of a sudden we have a literal freaking holy lightsaber and that tone just gets slashed with a machete.

That, and, I'm sorry, the Andi-Butters relationship is just kinda creepy. She was a college freshman in Fool Mon, and a scant five years later when we meet Butters, he mentions being 37 years old. Depending on how old Andi is (it's never specified, just that she's of age with the rest of the Alphas), he could have 10+ years on her. I don't really care how narratively justified it is, that shit makes me raise my eyebrows.

edited 31st Jul '16 5:29:20 AM by math792d

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#16919: Jul 31st 2016 at 5:38:50 AM

I'm dating someone twenty years older than me. YMMV big time on the age factor.

I'm going to have to read Skin Game to catch up on some of this stuff. Cold Days didn't include a skateboard. Though even that could just be Butters keeping up with Andi. It does happen in those relationships.

math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#16920: Jul 31st 2016 at 5:40:33 AM

[up] Yeah, obviously the time factor's YMMV. As are most things pertaining to sexuality in this series that don't involve Nickelheads. tongue

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#16921: Jul 31st 2016 at 6:11:04 AM

Well of course the Nickelheads would be outright bad. In such a world of ambiguity, it's nice to have a clear cut bad guy.

SCMof2814 Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: I don't mind being locked in this eternal maze!
#16922: Jul 31st 2016 at 5:18:52 PM

Actually, the skateboard makes sense. It's light and portable, wheeled and has no electronics and mechanisms to muck up, so it can be magically propelled. And unlike the alternatives with similar qualities, like bikes, scooters and roller blades, it's relatively portable and unobtrusive,and has no tactically weakness that can't be solved be stepping off it, which is also quicker and easier to do than on a bike or roller blades. Plus you can bring it into buildings and doesn't make you stand out (scooters are really awkward in this regard).

edited 31st Jul '16 5:19:09 PM by SCMof2814

math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#16923: Aug 1st 2016 at 1:56:33 AM

It's also too-90s-for-words and no essay on its practicality is going to change that tongue

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#16924: Aug 1st 2016 at 5:33:21 AM

Um, skateboards are still around, man. And the pros who made the games in the early 2000s are around Butters's age. So, no, it's not too nineties for words. MIGHT be behind the times now, possibly, but not by that much.

Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#16925: Aug 1st 2016 at 8:10:59 AM

And does not change the practicality of it as pointed out above.


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