Manly Guys Doing Manly Things

The roots of Kal-El and Batman's madness go way back farther than that. Or didn't you see George Reeves as Kal-El and Adam West as Batman in their respective shows? Which were lifted directly from the contemporaneous comics.

The things is, there's a very specific type of crazy that Rorschach falls under. A lot of other superheroes fall close, but he's still way fucking crazier.

And I'd say anyone who "identifies" with Batman, or most superheroes, probably doesn't properly understand the character.

Disparagingly suggesting Superman doesn't come from the planet and thus shouldn't represent the USA is an incredible disservice to the immigrants, legal and illegal, that made the country what it is.

USA is 99% immigrants anyway.

Dressing up as someone for Halloween doesn't mean you identify with them.

• RANDOM AMERICAN: All these f*cking immigrants should go away and leave this country to the people who belong here!
• NATIVE AMERICAN: *pointedly* I agree with this sentiment.

How many generations does it take for the children of immigrants born in the new country to stop being immigrants?

Yeah, Native Americans didn't spontaneously generate, either.

Clearly there must be a line somewhere, because if you go back far enough everyone is descended from an immigrant to wherever they live.

Admittedly for some Africans you may need to go all the way back to the ones that had fins, but they still count.

I believe that legally speaking, the answer is one generation; if you were born and raised in the country you're living in, you're not an immigrant.

Depends on the country though. In America if you're born in America then you're an America but that's not the case in like Switzerland.

Ugh, can we please not start up a debate in this thread about illegal immigration? It's almost certain to become terrifyingly ugly fast, especially with the debacle that's currently going on with the border right at the moment.

edited 27th Jul '14 8:46:05 PM by TheSpaceJawa

What's wrong with the boarder? Why are people questioning his right to board things?

That was funnier than it ought to be.

Wasn't Bill's reasoning for Clark/Superman outdated anyway?

Not if you pick to a continuity you like and stick to it. DC thinks we all have memories like goldfish and keep changing things for the sake of changing things and fuck you if you don't like it. Witness that whole Nu-52 debacle.

So yeah, as far as I am concerned, Bill's view of Kal-El is, was, and ever will be the best depiction of that particular guy's character.

Jawa, nobody was arguing anything about it until you did. Check yourself first.

edited 27th Jul '14 10:04:45 PM by Adannor

@Jawa: I didn't start a debate, nor did anyone who responded after that post. I just remembered they exist.

edited 27th Jul '14 10:11:36 PM by wanderlustwarrior

*cough*

So how 'bout them manly guys?

I think all those manly guys are illegal immigrants.

Back on topic!

Commander is kinda brown, bet he's an immigrant.

Nah, that's just a tan from the light of all the alien suns he's walked under. Including the sun of the planet of the giant millipedes.

Shudder.

Jared comes from Kanto, so he's an immigrant.
Commander comes from a different time period, so he's an immigrant.
Canadian Guy is presumably Canadian, so she's an immigrant.
Pretty much all of the agency's guys come from fictional settings, so they're immigrants.

This series is supposed to be about "manly guys", but only the chick is probably Murican. Dumb feminist immigrant propaganda.

"Canadian Guy is presumably Canadian, so she's an immigrant."

Wow. Bet he gets a shock the next time he looks at himself in the shower.

Huh. I didn't catch that typo, but that was funny enough that I'm going to let it stand.