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I wonder if he can exploit that with time travel.

I'm going to say yes, but not as far as you might think. Time Travel stops working if you think to hard about it, after all.

It wouldn't do him any good to punch the guy before the permission was given. Kinda kills the psychological angle.

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I think he was suggesting getting multiple punches by abusing time travel.

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That's what I was imagining, at least. Travel twenty years forward in time, punch him, and then next time you're in a bad mood, travel to the day before you punched him and pre-empt the first one. Repeat as necessary.

Wouldn't you also negate the later punches legality?

No, because the first punch is legal, and which punch is the first one depends either on the subjective nature of individual viewpoints in the face of time travel. They can hardly retroactively punish you for something that was legal when you did it, after all.

Or, alternatively, depending on how time travel works, each punch causes a timeline split, so from the point of view of the military, there's only ever one punch.

A competent time travel organization would probably have rules to clarify/prevent that sort of situation, but that's hardly the characterization we've got from these guys.

edited 14th Apr '14 8:42:16 PM by Gilphon

Pretty sure abusing the timeline for more punches would fall under "mad bitchin'" and so it would all work out.

Given the incredible mess of looping that was Commander's fight with himself over coffee, I do not have any real idea about how repeat punchings would work out in timeline terms.

Seems like more trouble than the Commander would go to, really. Seems like he'd enjoy the anticipation more than actually hitting the guy.

That was a very simple You Already Changed the Past Stable Time Loop. Under those rules, outside observers would see the Commander punching the Admiral several times, in violation of the agreement.

HOWEVER, by those rules the "alternate present" (created by Commander's trip to the future) should not be possible either unless the Commander never returns. Since it's explicitly stated that time travel only works if you don't think about it too hard, I'm not expecting any sort of consistency any more.

It was explicitly stated to be a temporary alternate present brought about by his absence. Once he returns, things should snappubakkuru.

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Exactly. By the rules of You Already Changed the Past, that doesn't happen.

That's not the same, though. With the coffee thing, he went to a time that he knew he was already in, instead of leaving it. I don't think it was that trope.

edited 15th Apr '14 1:02:46 AM by wanderlustwarrior

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That instance is my absolute favorite time travel moment in any story, just because of how utterly gratuitous and needlessly self-destructive it was.

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The Commander's fight over coffee followed You Already Changed the Past because the Commander made sure it happened that way, in order not to confuse Jones or any other bystanders.

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I almost pity the Admiral. Almost, but not quite. You don't get to screw around with the most well-adjusted comic character in history and not make me want someone to cold-cock you with a crowbar. But the Commander's big meaty fist would do about as much damage so that will do nicely.

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No color yet though

edited 20th Apr '14 10:15:10 PM by LeGarcon

Oh really when?

Okay, the count was quite funny. I think it's off, though.

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Steps for eggs are a set number, not a range. So it's right.

I thought it was a set number, but the number she said was lower than that of the entire range in Bulbapedia, so I thought she was wrong. Maybe one of those two is from a more recent generation?

Latest strip is in color now. I like how Jared is being a badass in his own right.

edited 25th Apr '14 6:05:57 AM by wanderlustwarrior

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Yeah, Jared just looks more adorable as a badass, crafting his obsidian knife.

Great cartoon.

I wonder if active thinking about time travel always results in a Mis-blamed situation. Or maybe a merging of timelines. It was earlier described as being temporary.

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I'm tentatively blaming Jared. Seems the logical thing to do.

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Oh really when?