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relic Since: Oct, 2010
#16826: Feb 4th 2017 at 7:39:59 PM

FF is a corpse whose body is being used as a meat puppet by Stand using plankton.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#16827: Feb 4th 2017 at 8:38:07 PM

Huh, I always thought FF was some kind of The Worm That Walks kind of deal

Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#16828: Feb 5th 2017 at 3:10:50 AM

Oh… right, I had forgotten Atroe was already dead before. =.=" Although FF still has access to her memory, so her brain has to work somehow… But as Moth says plankton can fix it I guess…

…Let's say that "it just works". tongue

edited 5th Feb '17 3:29:39 AM by Lyendith

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#16829: Feb 5th 2017 at 4:49:22 PM

So you know what they could have done?

Stab Hayato with a Stand Arrow. It wouldn't be able to kill him because of Bite the Dust so he'd get a Stand. Then sick him on Kira, who won't be able to hurt him because of Bite the Dust.

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#16830: Feb 5th 2017 at 4:52:32 PM

[up] Did they have the arrow when they found out about Hayato's importance? I mean, I know that Jotaro managed to intercept a Stand Arrow from that guitar guy who had an electric stand and turned it over to the Speedwagon Foundation but how quickly could they have gotten it back over to Jotaro?

And Jotaro didn't know until he beat down Kira into the path of an ambulance.

edited 5th Feb '17 5:19:55 PM by fredhot16

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relic Since: Oct, 2010
#16831: Feb 5th 2017 at 5:16:36 PM

Also the Arrow held by Kira's father was destroyed when the photo was destroyed.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#16832: Feb 5th 2017 at 5:19:32 PM

The arrow had gone back to the Speedwagon Foundation. The only one in Morioh with an arrow at that point was Yoshihiro.

Besides, they had no way of knowing that Hayato was being affected by BTD without triggering BTD.

Ukokira Since: May, 2012
#16833: Feb 5th 2017 at 5:45:21 PM

Even then Killer Queen would have just grabbed the arrow and prevent it from stabbing him

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#16834: Feb 5th 2017 at 5:53:52 PM

But wouldn't it have just stopped the Arrow from killing him? Since it has a 50/50 shot of killing him or giving him a stand.

Just like how DIO should have stabbed himself a thousand times with an arrow.

Since he can't die.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#16835: Feb 5th 2017 at 6:35:56 PM

I don't think Killer Queen can physically stop a virus, but it can physically stop an arrow stab so it would just do that.

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#16836: Feb 5th 2017 at 6:38:41 PM

Though I have to wonder about stabbing yourself with an arrow multipule times to get more and more powerful. How do we know the arrow doesn't have a set limit for one Stand?

edited 5th Feb '17 7:00:10 PM by fredhot16

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#16837: Feb 5th 2017 at 6:59:34 PM

Hell, why didn't DIO ever try to pull a Kars or something and become Ultimate DIO?

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#16838: Feb 5th 2017 at 7:01:22 PM

[up] You mean with the Stone Mask and the Stone of Ajah?

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relic Since: Oct, 2010
#16839: Feb 5th 2017 at 7:16:43 PM

Probably because he didn't know about the Stone, or the special masks, or anything about Pillar Men.

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#16840: Feb 5th 2017 at 7:17:25 PM

[up] Yeah, what he said. He was underwater for about a century or so, remember?

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#16841: Feb 5th 2017 at 7:24:20 PM

Yet he somehow found out about the Stand Arrows, and came up with that entire plan with the secret words and the ascending to Heaven thing, even though he really had no idea that that would even work.

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#16842: Feb 5th 2017 at 7:26:38 PM

[up]I'd assume that the old crone provided the Stand Arrows and that "Going to Heaven" was something he found and dug up before he got offed.

Which was how long, again?

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#16843: Feb 5th 2017 at 8:09:06 PM

Yeah, I think Enya sought DIO out and came to him with the Stand Arrows.

Also, I think Bites the Dust has limits on what it can protect Hayato from. I doubt it could save him from, say, suffocating in a room full of smoke.

illegalcheese X-14: Killer Cheese Since: Apr, 2010
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#16844: Feb 5th 2017 at 11:24:39 PM

DIO didn't discover anything about the secret words or the Green Baby, or going to Heaven. He used his vampire powers to engineer a part of his body into a creature that could alter stands and give them time-related powers, and react to gravity. The secret words were for security, the thirty sinners were for an energy source. DIO didn't discover any of it, he used mad vampire science to design it. The only thing he needed to discover were the extent of his flesh weaving powers and the way his stand powers would interact with those, and he had everything he needed for that on his body.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#16845: Feb 6th 2017 at 8:20:54 AM

The logical conclusion of DIO making catbirds and mandogs in his early vampire days. tongue

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#16847: Feb 6th 2017 at 10:13:31 AM

Ultimate Dio happens in the game Eyes of Heaven, as a result of a timeline in which DIO was victorious at the end of Stardust Crusaders.

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Elfive Since: May, 2009
#16848: Feb 6th 2017 at 10:14:41 AM

Presumably it was foreshadowing his ability to do that with his own head if the need arose.

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#16849: Feb 6th 2017 at 1:15:20 PM

I more meant Ultimate DIO in the same vein as Ultimate Kars; just picture it, all of Ultimate Kars' abilities, on top of potentially a near limitless Time Stop. Just imagine how broken a Time Stop/Sun-level Hamon combo would be.

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Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#16850: Feb 6th 2017 at 2:21:56 PM

Huh… I wonder if that's a coincidence

Otherwise, Anasui's flirting continues to be hilarious. tongue

edited 6th Feb '17 2:33:20 PM by Lyendith


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