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Would this be a subversion of Dogged Nice Guy?

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LightningKnight God rules! from Your house. Since: Apr, 2010
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#1: Nov 13th 2010 at 6:28:14 PM

A character who has a crush on and gives someone a shoulder to cry on, but genuinely wants them to be happy (with them or not)... would that be played straight or subverted?

Because Dogged Nice Guy seems to be "pretend to care about her so she'll give in one day", and I don't want my character to seem like that.

"Jesus is always the answer." - People who drift off in Sunday School.
GenericGuy Since: May, 2010
#2: Nov 13th 2010 at 6:38:08 PM

The dogged nice guy being in fact manipulative is an alternate characterization or deconstruction of the character you describe. In the end there is nothing you can do about whether or not people interrupt him as being a generally good person or selfish, but maybe given him a few I want my beloved to be happy moments by having him set his target of affections up with someone else he thinks is better for her and you make the theory of him being secretly a manipulative jerk harder to sell.

"If you make people think they’re thinking, they’ll love you; but if you really make them think, they’ll hate you." —Don Marquis
LightningKnight God rules! from Your house. Since: Apr, 2010
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#3: Nov 13th 2010 at 7:00:56 PM

Oh, I thought being a manipulative person WAS the trope.

Okay. It's an interpretation. Thanks. :)

"Jesus is always the answer." - People who drift off in Sunday School.
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