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Adannor Since: May, 2010
#3501: Aug 4th 2016 at 12:24:42 AM

Yes. Bowman A.I.s still have automatic 3law-alike responses and develop them into part of their neural networks.

scionofgrace from the depths of my brain Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#3502: Aug 4th 2016 at 12:38:21 PM

Yeah, we've had a few strips where Florence was up against her 3 laws programming, though she's been able to think around them or interpret them the way she feels is best - as per Dr. Bowman's intention.

Blunt being so literal is supposed to be caused by his slowness, but man if it doesn't come off like deep-seated self-hate.

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#3503: Aug 4th 2016 at 6:16:21 PM

"A man who acts as his own lawyer in court has a fool for a client" — attributed to Abraham Lincoln, and others.

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NateWinchester Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Sinking with my ship
#3504: Aug 4th 2016 at 6:49:07 PM

But I like the nephew's metaphor quite a bit too. evil grin

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#3505: Aug 5th 2016 at 7:44:20 AM

I can't help but think of a metaphorical version of that scene from Groundhog Day when Phil Connors drives a pickup into a quarry with Puxatawney Phil. "He'll probably be okay." huge fireball "Okay, maybe not."

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#3507: Aug 7th 2016 at 8:45:00 PM

Yeah, Blunt is really close to the line here. It really doesn't help that Blunt's approach to "saving humanity" is one of the worst possible approaches. You know, protecting the lunatic who nearly collapsed the economy of Jean because he's too stupid to comprehend the relative value of money.

Not Three Laws compliant.
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#3508: Aug 8th 2016 at 1:48:32 AM

That counts as obstructing justice and advocating tampering with evidence.

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Adannor Since: May, 2010
#3509: Aug 8th 2016 at 4:09:49 AM

Well technically all Blunt is doing right now is a typical "don't say anything" layer advice. Actual destruction of the evidence attempt was done by Kornada, before the trial and all, and that's pretty standard thing too.

32_Footsteps Think of the mooks! from Just north of Arkham Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#3510: Aug 8th 2016 at 6:53:58 AM

If the US Constitution is in effect here, all Blunt did was notify his client to exercise his fifth amendment right to avoid self-incrimination, as well as note that his defense is likely to be hampered by the material evidence in said robot. And it's not like he did it in front of the prosecution, although it does stand to reason that the specifics of his defense (such as, boy, it'd be ideal if Clippy doesn't testify) should be discussed solely in private. Rookie attorney mistake.

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billybobfred Cosine! from renamed to wingedcatgirl Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#3511: Aug 8th 2016 at 7:28:55 AM

Well, Blunt is about as rookie of an attorney as you can get.

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#3514: Aug 10th 2016 at 10:49:16 AM

I think he knows Raibert enough to be sarcastic.

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#3515: Aug 10th 2016 at 11:02:02 AM

Ah, but my question is whether or not Ishiguro would be the type to be aware enough to make the comment out of sarcasm in this case. I mean, maybe, but maybe not. In a way, I think it's funnier if he doesn't mean it sarcastically.

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#3516: Aug 10th 2016 at 3:28:32 PM

I doubt that Ishiguro has ever been in a position where his health and safety have been at risk due to unsafe working conditions. So, I believe that line was said with no traces of sarcasm whatsoever.

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ashnazg Since: Dec, 2009
#3517: Aug 11th 2016 at 9:01:14 AM

Oh come now, Ishiguro's already demonstrated (e.g. against Kornada) that he has a functioning sense of snark; and while he does have some weird obstructive-bureaucrat traits, he's not unintelligent. Surely he's saying that sarcastically.

[up] Just because Ishiguro doesn't live that kind of life himself doesn't mean that he can't see the irony in that line coming from someone who does. (...wait, or are you being sarcastic?)

edited 11th Aug '16 9:03:09 AM by ashnazg

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#3518: Aug 13th 2016 at 4:24:10 PM

Yesterday, Clippy was evidence. Today, he's a citizen. He's also an accomplice/accessory to the crime, locked up in police custody, with multiple safeguards preventing access to him. Plus, Florence sabotaged him so he couldn't be turned back on.

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Adannor Since: May, 2010
#3519: Aug 13th 2016 at 10:20:15 PM

Actually, Flo specifically sabotaged him so he'd be easily repairable. So it's a little bit of mystery why he doesn't turn on.

edited 13th Aug '16 10:21:02 PM by Adannor

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#3520: Aug 14th 2016 at 6:24:25 AM

She didn't even break him, just dismantled him.

I guess they didn't want to reactivate Clippy in case he attempted to self-wipe his memory.

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FuzzyBoots from Outlying borough of Pittsburgh (there's a lot of Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
#3521: Aug 14th 2016 at 6:24:45 AM

When I first ran into that, I assumed it was something like D&D's rule that Ressurection and Raise Dead don't work on subjects that don't want to come back. Then again, I could also see it as an Ecosystems Unlimited safeguard to prevent a robot with sensitive information from being disabled, transported elsewhere, and booted up. That would seem to be kind of a shaggy dog story, though, unless it leads to a storyline about the ethics of leaving such systems in sentient beings (possibly counter-balanced by how humans have no way of rebooting).

Of course, it could also be that Florence, capable as she is, made a mistake, and accidentally killed him permanently.

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#3523: Aug 15th 2016 at 12:25:56 PM

Couldn't he assign a few thousand robots to assist?

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#3524: Aug 15th 2016 at 4:51:45 PM

The problem with that idea is, I don't think any of the higher-ups at EU want robots in any position that involves deciding and implementing company policy. They can be subverted too easily just by somebody giving them a direct order.

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FuzzyBoots from Outlying borough of Pittsburgh (there's a lot of Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
#3525: Aug 16th 2016 at 9:13:40 PM

Brings to mind the real-life case of an advertising algorithm realizing that a girl was pregnant before she did and sending her relevant ads.


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