Unofficial Official Mega Man Thread

CRORQ is worth a google.

It's an actual villain in the series. No, I'm not shitting you.

...Huh, so it is.

I love tossing out obscure Mega Man information.

I know Super Adventure Rockman was supposedly excised from the timeline by Inafune, but it's the perfect prequel to Rockman World V (the one with the Stardroids) and 8.

Dark Moon's remains would have been sufficiently intact that Wily turned him into a Yellow Devil clone for V.

Bass's entire existence suggests that the groundwork for Zero already existed before 7, and Bass was Zero's proof-of-concept prototype (as was King, from whom Wily took the melee superiority concept and made Zero into a hand-to-hand BEAST). Zero should not be anywhere near complete until after 11, so that Wily has the capacity to integrate Double Gear into Zero's body (as his anti-X trump card). Bass stealing research from Light simply allowed Wily to alter Zero's final chassis to be more in line with X's to close the technological gap.

The fun part would be determining if Zero had any copied Stardroid tech inside him (that WOULD have been another edge for him over Rock).

Edited by AceOfScarabs on Mar 25th 2024 at 8:20:31 PM

That would explain the rocket-power Rush Adapter being a good counter to him; IIRC Mega Man V had something similar.

Edited by lalalei2001 on Mar 25th 2024 at 9:49:32 AM

If Rock had been able to field both the Mega Arm and the Double Gear at once, he would have had enough burst damage to be a real threat to Zero :V

A lot of the logic of Zero killing off the original cast relies on Zero being pretty much unbeatable to Mega Man.

Not sure how much I buy it, but even Zero's first appearance showed he's not exactly invincible by 21XX standards.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Mar 26th 2024 at 5:39:27 PM

My opinion is that Zero's original design would have been a threat to Rock pre-Mega Arm and almost certainly pre-Double Gear. The same system that gives him the edge in a fight VS X would allow Rock to find an opportunity to return fire and do real damage against him.

Bass in theory has the specs to stall Zero out, since he's using a lot of the lastgen versions of parts that got put into Zero's chassis (only thing he really lacks is the walljump and possibly the Double Gear). Shouldn't even need Treble since the Gospel Boost adapter doesn't really add much firepower without Evil Energy boosting it and is better for the mobility.

I also have the theory that the two Rush adaptor suits from 6 (Jet and Power suit adapters) were the basis of the Falcon and Gaea armor sets for X in X5.

Edited by AceOfScarabs on Mar 26th 2024 at 9:12:08 PM

Considering Light built them all, a very big possibility.

It makes sense to me that the Mega Man characters could stand a chance against X and Zero - combat ability isn't the thing that makes them exceptional, as compared to the last era's robots. But it's possible that they pull further and further ahead over the course of the X series, and if you sent X from X6 back in time to the era of Robot Masters, he would be unstoppable.

Plus I think it's that one episode of the Mega Man ruby spears starring X and Vile that really gave the fandom the idea that the X era characters are out of the league of the Classic cast.

Speaking of implied advancement, I liked that X2 included the Dash in X's starting kit and added the red to his charge shot. It kind of implied that the advancements that came from his first armor were now a part of him.

It reminds me of that explanation that the reason Omega looks like Zero's MMZ era body instead of his X body is because Zero's original body underwent so many upgrades that it now looks like it does now.

Wily must be rolling around in his grave over people spoiling his masterpiece.

For me the breakpoint that lets Classic-era Mega Man characters put the hurt on later-era characters is the Double Gear, just for that raw brute power boost.

Part of the problem is that attacks like buster shots are rather esoteric and it's difficult to compare them to things. There's also inconsistency as always. These both make it hard to measure how powerful any given character is.

Good example of the above:

In Maverick Hunter X, Vile freaks out when X prepares a Charge Shot, and it wrecks Vile so badly its basically a one shot. In actual gameplay, it's strong for sure, but the only one shotting it can do is against weaker enemies. Tougher enemies and bosses can face tank Charge Shots with impunity until they finally die.

Edited by TheDarkMantis on Mar 27th 2024 at 10:58:34 AM

But that was also a point blank charge shot that Vile had no time to defend against wasn't it?

Sure, in gameplay, it wouldn't matter much, but outside of that....it probably hurts.

.....wait. Why were Reploids programmed to feel pain?

Who would do that?

Programming Reploids to feel pain makes sense IMO. Humans feel pain for a very good reason, after all.

Pain exists as your body trying to say "hey we're taking damage we need it to stop or get away". If you can Feel No Pain in real life, that's actually alarming, because even if you're bluntly told you're hurt, you don't even feel it so it might as well not exist... and your body takes further and further damage while you're oblivious until oops you're dead.

Even a Ridiculously Human Robot benefits from pain responses instead of just having their system say they're damaged.

Fair enough in theory. But in practice....

Correct, you'd want your Reploid to be aware when it has been damaged and to avoid being damaged instinctively. The machine going into some sort of "panic mode" to focus on avoiding further damage or even putting a blocker on such behaviors make sense.

Even actions like shouting in pain make sense for a Reploid, since they immediately communicate to others that the Reploid has been damaged and this should be treated with the level of seriousness of a human being injured.

This is for the good of both The Reploid as a sapient being and whoever's footing the bill for its maintenance and creation.

He's a Super Fighting Robot from the year 2010 and he's up on the effin' roof!

Right. Proper explanation time: Gamerthumbtv's second chapter in the Mega-Man story is up. Enjoy it!

I wonder what Sigma would be like if he was cured of the Zero Virus. He seemed like a pretty good guy before being infected with the Zero virus. If the creators of the new generation reploids used samples of Sigma's DNA before he was corrupted then they might have turned out a lot better.

I should make a “Kitsune Woman” OC.

That's an interesting question.

Outside of his fight with Zero from just before he first gets infected, do we know anything of Pre-Infection Sigma?