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Sabbo from Australia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#401: Sep 4th 2012 at 4:24:53 AM

Considering how things have been progressing, I think the third level of the original Pikmin should be the first of Pikmin 3.

hnd03 Parasol Star Memories from [REDACTED] Since: Jun, 2009
Parasol Star Memories
#402: Sep 4th 2012 at 4:30:08 AM

Did the Forest Navel end up as anything in Pikmin 2? It didn't seem very similar to Valley of Repose.

edited 4th Sep '12 4:31:49 AM by hnd03

So. Let's all pause for a moment to smell what the Rock was, is, and forever will be... cooking.—Cave Johnson
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#403: Sep 4th 2012 at 4:57:39 AM

No. That's the only area map they didn't reuse. As a result the Valley of Repose is the only map made for that game.

edited 4th Sep '12 4:57:55 AM by Kostya

Theboywonder from Your house Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: A teenager in love
#404: Sep 7th 2012 at 6:58:57 PM

They reused Level maps? Huh. They all seemed so different.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#405: Sep 7th 2012 at 7:03:37 PM

They were different but if you look at the layout you can tell they reused them.

Take these two for example.

edited 7th Sep '12 7:04:01 PM by Kostya

hnd03 Parasol Star Memories from [REDACTED] Since: Jun, 2009
Parasol Star Memories
#406: Sep 7th 2012 at 7:04:40 PM

Forest of Hope and Awakening Wood are the same, Distant Spring and Perplexing Pool are the same, and Wistful Wild is both the Impact Site and the Final Trial

I believe the Dream Den is where the Engine used to be

edited 7th Sep '12 7:08:53 PM by hnd03

So. Let's all pause for a moment to smell what the Rock was, is, and forever will be... cooking.—Cave Johnson
Theboywonder from Your house Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: A teenager in love
#407: Sep 7th 2012 at 7:06:48 PM

It seems like they just reused the outline of the level and added a bunch of new crap to it like hills and stuff.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#408: Sep 7th 2012 at 7:08:48 PM

Yeah they changed the specifics of what's in the level but the base model is practically identical in just about every scenario. That probably explains how they were able to make so many different dungeon layouts, the overworld was already designed.

edited 7th Sep '12 7:09:15 PM by Kostya

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#409: Sep 7th 2012 at 8:51:21 PM

I liked how the levels were the same areas, especially with how the environmental puzzles are altered. For example, the Awakening wood has you going counterclockwise in the main circle to complete the loop (Building the bridge) while the original was the other way around (Destroying a stone wall). Or how Wistful Wild starts you off in Emperor Bulblax's arena, has you work your way backwards, and eventually reach the Impact Site's landing spot.

Also, the Yellow and Blue Onions are where the Armored Cannon Beetles were, the Dream Den is where the Engine used to be, and the Snagret Hole is where the Snagrets were.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (USA) (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#410: Sep 7th 2012 at 9:41:46 PM

I didn't even realize the last one until you pointed it out Anom.

Eating a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.
Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#411: Sep 7th 2012 at 10:50:29 PM

Snagrets. ಠ_ಠ
HATE SNAGRETS.
The fucking pileated snagret...

rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (USA) (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#412: Sep 7th 2012 at 10:53:13 PM

Me: -Does a lot of back and forth running-

Eating a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#413: Sep 7th 2012 at 11:04:51 PM

Pileated Snagret isn't hard for me to defeat with no deaths, but it takes forever.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
FreezairForALimitedTime Responsible adult from Planet Claire Since: Jan, 2001
Responsible adult
#414: Sep 7th 2012 at 11:48:43 PM

I normally like collecting boss corpses, but for Pileated, I make an exception and go straight for the Bitter Spray.

"Proto-Indo-European makes the damnedest words related. It's great. It's the Kevin Bacon of etymology." ~Madrugada
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#415: Sep 8th 2012 at 10:08:33 AM

I like collecting enemy corpses even after paying off the debt, inexplicably. I usually purple spray Fiery Bulblaxes and sometimes Bulbears, though, because they're really hard to beat with zero casualties.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
hnd03 Parasol Star Memories from [REDACTED] Since: Jun, 2009
Parasol Star Memories
#416: Sep 8th 2012 at 10:26:26 AM

Was the bit where you had to kill a Fiery Bulblax with only blues Submerged Castle or a Challenge Mode map?

Because that was shitty

So. Let's all pause for a moment to smell what the Rock was, is, and forever will be... cooking.—Cave Johnson
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#417: Sep 8th 2012 at 10:39:47 AM

[up]Submerged Castle. I remember that being in Chuggaaconroy's LP and he didn't do the challenge mode.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#418: Sep 8th 2012 at 11:48:24 AM

There's also one in the Valley of Repose you have to fight like that, unless you're willing to drag Reds through water.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Sabbo from Australia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#419: Sep 8th 2012 at 5:03:24 PM

I'm pretty sure you can get reds there somehow, because I remember fighting that guys with reds, and I never take anything other than blues through water intentionally.

...Although I will sometimes throw the others over water. I'm going to assume that this Valley of Repose bit didn't have such a small area of water that you're talking about, however.

edited 8th Sep '12 5:03:45 PM by Sabbo

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#420: Sep 8th 2012 at 5:05:54 PM

There's little stone islands around it, but there's also Water Dumples.

Eh, from a time-perspective it's much easier to fight it with blues, only real way to complete the extended Valley of Repose in one day. But otherwise it's still a hassle to bring reds, just less so.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
FreezairForALimitedTime Responsible adult from Planet Claire Since: Jan, 2001
Responsible adult
#421: Sep 9th 2012 at 3:21:26 PM

Fiery Bulblaxes. Dem buggers.

If I don't spray them, I'll often just go toe-to-toe with them captainwise. Or start off with some captains and then finish it off with reds.

"Proto-Indo-European makes the damnedest words related. It's great. It's the Kevin Bacon of etymology." ~Madrugada
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#422: Sep 9th 2012 at 3:22:20 PM

I usually just spray them.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (USA) (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#423: Sep 9th 2012 at 5:14:41 PM

I try to avoid them, and break out the Spray if that doesn't work.

Eating a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#424: Sep 9th 2012 at 6:30:43 PM

I have a fight-everyone policy (Unless I'm speedrunning in the overworld and have to just run past everything, though even during speedruns in caves I fight and collect everything even when I have over 10000 Pokos.).

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (USA) (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#425: Sep 9th 2012 at 6:35:03 PM

I only fight things when they're directly in my way. (Or I'm in a cave.)

Eating a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.

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