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MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Ahr river
#4701: May 31st 2015 at 6:16:20 PM

Ninety: Yep.

Phantom: Yeah. The internet tends to make a mockery of things like it's our own personal reality show. It's terrifying.

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Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#4702: May 31st 2015 at 6:29:32 PM

Yeah, I see my decision to stay the hell away from the pros and antis in the social justice sphere was a wise one.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#4703: May 31st 2015 at 6:32:31 PM

Ninety: Yep.

i don't know if ninety was implying this at all in his post but i think that labeling anyone as "scum" (if it's not an abbreviation for something else, i had to google it to find out what it actually means and it doesn't seem to stand for anything) comes across as an unnecessary slur.

it's stuff like that which makes tumblr look extraordinarily hateful for a community which is supposed to be all about welcoming the disenfranchised.

not to say that the kids involved in this aren't dumb or anything, i'm just making a point.

edited 31st May '15 6:34:51 PM by wehrmacht

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#4704: May 31st 2015 at 6:33:22 PM

Jeeze. I reblogged one post about the whole thing because I was confused about it, and figured some of my followers might be grateful for the information, but If I had known the whole thing was a bunch of kids I probably would have just ignored it.

Glad I've mostly been ignoring the actual mocking, though.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Ahr river
#4705: May 31st 2015 at 6:38:27 PM

wehr: Even the people who are truscum use it, so take it up with them. I have never heard an alternative term for it, I'm just using the word they use to self describe.

They say in their blog they are truscum. Literally.

edited 31st May '15 6:39:33 PM by MrAHR

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wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#4706: May 31st 2015 at 6:39:52 PM

for the record i'm not saying that it isn't an intolerant or problematic position (nor was i judging you in any way since i actually had a look at the blog myself now and they do use it to self-describe), i just don't really like the way the word sounds and i find it kind of weird that a person with that position would refer to themselves like that.

edited 31st May '15 6:41:06 PM by wehrmacht

MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Ahr river
#4707: May 31st 2015 at 6:40:32 PM

—shrugs— I don't know why either. If you know another term that's making rounds, I'll use it, but from what I can tell, it's mostly been neutralized (aka a full range of meaning, depending on who's using it).

Or at least as neutralized as the term SJW.

Honestly I know very few people who hold that position who DON'T use that term.

edited 31st May '15 6:41:19 PM by MrAHR

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wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#4708: May 31st 2015 at 6:42:10 PM

at this point i'd probably just call a person concerned with social issues a progressive or something (despite how vague and meaningless that term typically is), the term SJW has so much baggage now that it's really hard to use without making yourself look like someone who's just really intolerant about people who have legitimate issues with the way the world works, quite possibly because of their own experiences.

edited 31st May '15 6:43:56 PM by wehrmacht

MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Ahr river
#4709: May 31st 2015 at 6:43:38 PM

It is grating, but people are using it, and so far it does serve as a way to separate and categorize people.

For instance I qualify as an SJW. I have even used the term before, because it gets the point across simplistically enough where my political/social opinions lie.

New terms form in wonky ways. And so long as there is discourse surrounding it, people will be making specific terms to suit the discourse.

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TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
#4710: May 31st 2015 at 7:17:47 PM

[up][up] It runs both ways, depending on a number of factors.

Depending on the circle you run in, people labeling you as a 'SJW' can mean quick derision as someone who's an angry maniac detached from the reality of the world and completely incapable of being tolerant of anyone who doesn't share your opinion 100% of the time.

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#4711: May 31st 2015 at 7:19:25 PM

This is why I just call myself an "SJR"

Social Justice Rogue.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#4712: May 31st 2015 at 7:28:31 PM

In seriousness, I like SJA — Social Justice Advocate. Not that I'd call myself one anyway.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
#4713: May 31st 2015 at 7:32:49 PM

It's not the name or the title that's so much the problem, but rather the kind of people that have become associated with the label.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
phantom1 Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#4716: May 31st 2015 at 7:42:28 PM

Anyways do you ever do this thing where you forget aesthetic bloggers have lives until they have messages about their birthday or they like one of your posts, because they don't do the thing where they blog about their personal lives, and so it just seems like pretty pictures especially if there is no particular theme. Or is that just me?

MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Ahr river
#4717: May 31st 2015 at 7:47:05 PM

Blogs that don't have personal posts are kind of nice. It's weird when specific blogs post personal posts. I unfollowed a food blog once cause they asked help for their math homework.

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phantom1 Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#4718: May 31st 2015 at 7:51:19 PM

I guess but I don't know I think I prefer to feel like I'm connecting to people, though I do follow some food blogs, and such that don't. I don't mind them, I just find it harder to go there is a person behind this blog. And I'm less likely to follow them, because of it.

TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
#4719: May 31st 2015 at 7:54:37 PM

What's an "aesthetic blogger"?

phantom1 Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#4720: May 31st 2015 at 7:55:46 PM

Someone who reblogs things because they look nice, or occasionally takes photos and posts them based on what looks the best. Tend not to have as many personal posts.

edited 31st May '15 7:57:19 PM by phantom1

LogoP Party Crasher from the Land of Deep Blue Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Party Crasher
#4721: May 31st 2015 at 7:57:09 PM

I think almost everyone on Tumblr does this, to an extent.

It is sometimes an appropriate response to reality to go insane.
phantom1 Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#4722: May 31st 2015 at 7:57:55 PM

Well yes usually there is just other stuff in between about the shows they like or there pets or school or whatever.

edited 31st May '15 7:58:14 PM by phantom1

Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#4723: May 31st 2015 at 8:30:23 PM

It would probably be best if we just stopped discussing this whole 'Sonic Real Justic' meme, since ultimate,y it only feeds the trolls

MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Ahr river
#4724: May 31st 2015 at 8:41:17 PM

It's a good thing we moved on to a different discussion then, eh?

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phantom1 Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#4725: May 31st 2015 at 8:42:38 PM

Yeah now were mostly discussing aesthetic blogs.


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