Raildex verse (A Certain Magical Index, A Certain Scientific Railgun, A Certain Scientific Accelerator)

And all the eating and clovers, yes. You might want to check out the manga, all that stuff is kept down to a much more reasonable level and there's an entire arc the anime hasn't adapted yet.

Cool, I'll read it when I get the chance.

soooo.thoughts on the power scale so far?

Where exactly are we supposed to go to next when we're already at god levels?

We have to be nearing the end game at some point, right?

edited 19th Feb '15 4:59:24 PM by clockworkBabbage

This character is even more omnipotent than the last one! Luckily, some dull jerk with a magic arm is his only weakness.

well,we could go to smaller scales,but still stupidly broken things.

Entropy Manipulation!

I too can create entropy. Watch as I do anything! Or nothing! Next Index villain role, please.

are you willing to take the responsibility of joining a harem?

Can't I just lose an arm or something?

you must also prove your Worf.

Who knows.

I mean, really. Does Kamachi know when he's ending this?

When he stops making all the money.

Probably more likely when the publisher stops.

edited 20th Feb '15 5:20:29 PM by clockworkBabbage

Or when he feels like ending it. It's not like his publishers can force him to keep writing and as long as it makes them money I doubt they would try to cancel it before then.

Depends on the details of contracts and whatnot as to whether or not he can be forced to keep writing.

Okay so I finished the Graviton Bomber Arc in the Railgun manga. It's a bit of a weird read because I'm used to Funimation's dialogue in the dub, but it read better because of the lack of distraction.

railgun deal with people using any mean to kill your enemy even if it is creating a monster

Are you referring to the same series as us?

Because it really doesn't sound like it.

What about Funimation's translation makes the fan translations weird?

Also, the Railgun anime is an adaptation of the manga, and it takes... a few liberties along the way. That might also be contributing to the weirdness factor for you.

I think that might have been "The Railgun manga tends to have people use any means to try to achieve their goals (kill their enemy?) even if it means creating monsters in the process." As in, not Mikoto but the actual series itself. It's kind of hard to tell.

Am I getting paid for this?

I haven't read any manga in a long time, so I stopped being used to fan translations and became more familiar with dubbed shows.

Even with that charitable an interpretation, I still don't get where that person's coming from.

I mean, it might be technically correct, but it seems like such a terrible way to describe the series. It's not like that mindset is any different compared to those of the antagonists in Index, and focusing on not the protagonist just doesn't seem useful for a description.

But no, you're not getting paid for this.

Some spoilers for the next Railgun chapter.

Apparently the kid uses photographs as the focus of his ability to predict the future. It's always right, but teleporters interfere with his ability due to their dimensional travel, and Kuroko prevents a crime that he predicted happening.

Things look pretty interesting at least, i'm optimistic.

I'm excited.

So, found a summary of the crossover novel. It's basically all Norse stuff. I haven't read Waltraute, Killer Princess or Zashiki so alot of it went over my head. Long story short, Loki's a dick.

Edit: Alright, so spoilers are a dick right now for some reason, and this is non-canon anyways so who cares, here's the summary.

The novel starts with Touma getting sucked into another world by his toilet. He’s quickly joined by Index (who was in the middle of changing) and Mikoto. Imminent punishment on Touma is averted when they notice a dark dragon fighting Baby Magnum nearby. Several other characters are also witnessing the fight. The characters transported to the world are: Toaru Majutsu no Index: Kamijou Touma, Index Librorum Prohibitorum and Misaka Mikoto. Heavy Object: Quenser Barbotage, Heivia Winchell and Milinda Brantini (Princess) in Baby Magnum. The Zashiki Warashi of Intellectual Village: Jinnai Shinobu, Yukari (Zashiki Warashi) and Yuki Onna. A Simple Series: Anzai Kyousuke, Higashikawa Mamoru and Bunny Girl Karen. Killer Princess and Deep End: Kyouichirou, Murder Princess Satsuki. One of Baby Magnum’s shots bounces off the dragon and almost kills Quenser and Heivia, but Yukari stops the shell with one hand (Youkai hax ). When the dragon continues to attack Yuki Onna freezes it. The dragon tries to rise again but is suddenly sniped by a giant beam. Enter Waltraute and Jack Elvan (The Circumstances Leading to Waltraute’s Marriage).

This is all adapted in the first chapter of the crossover manga. From now on it’s all Google Translate so expect errors aplenty. Feel free to correct mistakes.

The world they are in is Waltraute's world. After the fight with the dragon the heroes decide to cooperate and look for a way home. Something about them using Skíðblaðnir (Freyr’s boat and the myth used by New Light in Index to make their magic suitcases) I think. Waltraute brings them to Midgard. In the journey the female’s clothes are destroyed which forces them to wear the erotic outfits you can see in the color illustrations.

They stay at an inn in Midgard and decide to wait while Waltraute looks for a way for them to return to their world. But they need to earn money to pay their expenses while they wait. A suspicious half-dead beauty appears and an army of giant (20m) ice soldiers attacks the town. The group collaborates to defeat them and they earn a reward.

The suspicious girl is Hel from Waltraute’s world (she appeared at the end of chapter 1 in Waltraute’s novel and is the new girl in the manga group shot). She’s trying to get their souls because they are rare souls from another world. She was the one who summoned the giant ice soldiers and Níðhöggr (the dragon at the start).

Not sure about the next part, probably Google Translate messing something: Hel was hit by the dragon’s breath and ended crushed into a wall. Touma tells her the stories of "Momotaro", "Princess Kaguya", "Urashima Taro" and she cries. Anyway, she’s interacts with the heroes and learns a bit about them and their worlds.

In Waltraute’s world the souls of excellent warriors are needed for Ragnarok so by the rules created by Odin those who have not killed anyone are sent to the underworld (Hel).

Something about Shinobu being frozen, but I can’t make out what it means.

The mastermind who brought the group here is Loki, who forced the branches of Yggdrasil to reach the other worlds. The group needs to use Yggdrasil to go back to their worlds.

Hel is the one who takes the souls of the elderly, children, those who die of sickness; basically anyone who doesn’t die killing enemies in the battlefield. Murderers "ascend to heaven" (as close as it gets in Norse myth) while innocents fall to the underworld. She realizes how warped these rules are because of the contact with people from other worlds. Hel decides to rescue all the souls in the underworld, but she might die in the process and cause a calamity worse than Ragnarok. A jet-black huge tree appears. Jack wants to save Hel and the rest of the group decides to support Jack.

Hel summons shadows of people from the other series to fight the protagonists using the black tree. These are: The 100m Second Generation Object: Rush and its pilot Ohoho (Heavy Object) The freelancer youkai-buster agent: Hishigami Mai (Zashiki Warashi) The serial killer who only needs a stun gun to create a charred corpse: “Death by Electricity” Shizuna (Killer Princess) The existence who represents the Absurd: "White Girl" Alice (A Simple Series) The strongest Level 5, Academy City’s #1: Accelerator (Index) Waltraute faces the eight other Valkyrie sisters, who are aiming to kill Hel to stop the catastrophe.

Fenrir starts to rage and try to break Gleipnir (the chain binding him) because he wants to save his little sister. Shinobu pulls a Tyr and puts his hand inside his mouth and promises him he will carry his anger and save Hel in his place. Fenrir stops raging and leaves the rescue of his sister to the hero group.

Thanks to this action the god of war and victory Tyr is willing to cooperate with the heroes and gives them the buff “Absolute Certain Victory”. The heroes start to push the shadows back.

But then the black tree extends a branch to a certain world. The ultimate goal of Loki is revealed: he wants to extend a branch to a “primordial world”. The world is called「○○○○○○○○の○」. Loki needs this world to fulfill his desire. However something that couldn’t be predicted by Loki happens. The new world connected is not the one Loki seeks.

The new world is the one from “The Unexplored Summon://Blood Sign”. The shadows of Shiroyama Kyousuke and Meinokawa Higan appear. Kyousuke wastes no time and summons the strongest “unexplored class” summon: The “White Queen” who Wields the Sword of Unsullied Truth. The hero group gets stomped hard.

From Asgard Odin decides to wipe out the tree using the God Spear Gungnir, which would also wipe out the hero group. Fortunately Othinus intervenes and stops the use of Gungnir, but only temporarily.

Jack “suicides” to go to the underworld and asks help from the god of light Baldr (currently dead after being killed by Loki as mentioned in Waltraute’s novel). Baldr uses his power of light to protect the heroes. Thanks to that Gungnir only wipes out the tree and the shadows. Jack talks some sense into Hel and the incident is resolved.

However, when they open the gates to their worlds a large amount of seawater appears and threatens to sink Waltraute’s world. This is related to the sea goddess Rán who is trying to evolve into “a god of death who protects all the seas” using the "Absolute Capacity Evolution Plan (level 6 shift)" - 「絶対能力進化計画（レベル６シフト）」 (Kamachi). Joining her is her husband Ægir.

The heroes stop the tragedy and Index returns everyone back to their own worlds. Everyone except Touma, of course. His return is stopped by Imagine Breaker and he gets trapped in the Void between worlds. Just as he starts despairing about being stuck in an infinite world again Othinus brings him back to Index world.

Earlier spoilers about the shadow fights not present in the summary: Accel faces Touma for about the entire fight. Alice has the ability to make all attacks become ineffective, so Satsuki has to change her murder method each time to stall her. The White Queen doesn’t take the battle seriously and just plays around. The White Queen noted that even Othinus in her Full Power mode is still nothing compared to her, the strongest being in the unexplored class. After the summary there are also more details about each series' characters:

As expected Touma acts as "leader" of the group (as much as a group formed by those people can have a leader) and he has to suffer being lumped with super perverts like Quenser and Heivia by the girls of the group. Mikoto was one of the most useful combatants and apparently did well in the fight against the Object. Index was also very useful thanks to her analysis of Norse myth and Mai's powers. Apparently when Othinus appeared to stop Odin she had a chat with Frigg and they knew each other!

Quenser and Heivia were the main culprits of sexual harassment towards the girls and were related to the destruction of the girl's clothes. They collaborated with Mikoto against Mai doing things like throwing Hand Axe to her face. Of course the Princess had the most firepower of anyone in the hero team while in Baby Magnum but as a result of spending so much time inside she doesn't interact much with others.

Mamoru is still the “Ever-Victorious Challenger” and Karen the “Unbeatable Emperor” but Kyousuke (the one from A Simple Series) doesn’t have a supernatural ability and is the most ordinary person in the hero group. While Mamoru is someone who confronts the Absurd Kyousuke is someone who observes it.

About Killer Princess: in that world there are 72 murderers who control causes of death like burning, drowning, electrocution, etc. These aren’t “fantasy abilities” or “advanced science”, they kill people using normal tricks. The blogger compares it to Zenjiro Kasai from Majin Tantei Nogami Neuro.

The 「○○○○○○○○の○」 primordial world Loki was seeking is probably シュレディンガーの街 a.k.a. Schrodinger Road. This was Kamachi’s first work, the story he wrote for the 9th Dengeki Game Novel Prize that didn’t pass the third selection stage but caught the attention of Dengeki’s editor and led to him being a professional writer.

edited 4th Mar '15 4:45:31 PM by RedAcer