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Saya1 Werefox from Multiverse Since: Oct, 2011
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#12726: Apr 23rd 2014 at 10:09:29 PM

On the Old god thing. C'thun and Yog'Saron are still alive but dormant for now. N'zoth is still active and we have one more unaccounted for. I don't think the story is as big a deal as Seraphem does for WOW but he is right on the state of the Old Gods.

You look happy, I can change that if you want.
stevebat Since: Nov, 2009
#12727: Apr 23rd 2014 at 10:22:27 PM

Considering the old gods idea of a casual nap can be measured in thousands of years, they are pretty much dealt with in the current scope story of warcraft. Dead and Alive doesn't really mean much when sleeping is a ten THOUSAND year cycle.

Apocalypse: Dirge Of Swans.
Demetrios Our Favorite Cowgirl, er, Mare from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
Our Favorite Cowgirl, er, Mare
#12728: Apr 24th 2014 at 7:33:07 AM

Unless some crazy cultists decide to wake them up early.

I like to keep my audience riveted.
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#12729: Apr 24th 2014 at 7:37:08 AM

The nature of the game is such that, should Blizzard decide to pose the Old Gods as a threat again, some mechanism will be made available to resist them. I strongly suspect that they won't recycle that plot without a twist.

Rather, I imagine that when it comes time to revisit the "corrupted Azeroth" story, it'll involve the Titans more directly. That's been threatened for quite some time; it's something of an endgame scenario.

You can only have so many apocalyptic threats in a row before players get inured to it. That's why the game took a slightly more whimsical tone with Mists and is going off on alternate timeline tangents in Warlords. Serial Escalation is a serious problem when taken too far.

edited 24th Apr '14 7:38:46 AM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
stevebat Since: Nov, 2009
#12730: Apr 24th 2014 at 7:45:14 AM

Having played cataclysm and finding myself not giving a fuck, and playing Mists and being engrossed with the story, I almost think Warcraft does better when the villains are, well, personable ironically enough. I found the Sha much more interesting than Deathchin.

Apocalypse: Dirge Of Swans.
Demetrios Our Favorite Cowgirl, er, Mare from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
Our Favorite Cowgirl, er, Mare
#12731: Apr 24th 2014 at 7:48:57 AM

I had a lot of fun taking down the Twilight's Hammer, though. :)

I like to keep my audience riveted.
Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#12732: Apr 24th 2014 at 10:35:57 AM

That's less to do with the nature of the villain himself, and more with just the plain horrible storytelling around them.

blackcoldren I fought the Lore, and the Lore won. from The Lumberdesk Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Married to the job
I fought the Lore, and the Lore won.
#12733: Apr 24th 2014 at 11:00:43 AM

So I'd like to rejoin World Of Warcraft soon.

Can't say I'm looking forward to brute forcing my way through the Mists content, but I am not looking forward to it. I have three characters that are around 80-85, a Resto Druid who does nothing but heal, a Survival Hunter, and a Frost Death Knight. I also have a Prot Warrior at 70, a Frost Mage at 60, a Prot Paladin at 50 and a second Resto Druid at 50. And let's not forgot the 40 Rogue, 40 Priest, 30 Shaman, and 20 Monk.

All in all, I had Alt-itis. Any recommendations to combat this? These characters span at least three servers, and both factions. I'd really like to make the 80-85 Troll Hunter my main as he's one of the oldest characters I have, but he's a Bloodsail Admiral, on a low horde server and it was just plain aggravating trying to do anything.

edited 24th Apr '14 11:01:02 AM by blackcoldren

Not dead, just feeling like it.
Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#12734: Apr 24th 2014 at 11:05:27 AM

They have that "instantly boost to 90" thing now.

blackcoldren I fought the Lore, and the Lore won. from The Lumberdesk Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Married to the job
I fought the Lore, and the Lore won.
#12735: Apr 24th 2014 at 11:11:32 AM

I know from past experience that I know the hunter and the zones well enough I can get one to 80 in a week. It's that specific hunter that I'd miss. /sigh

Even then I could use the 90 boost on the 80 or so Druid, they're on an old Pv P realm and can do nothing but heal. They have no gear for anything else and I haven't a clue how to Oomkin.

Not dead, just feeling like it.
Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#12736: Apr 24th 2014 at 11:14:21 AM

I believe they mentioned something about including some kind of tutorial mode for boosted characters, but I think that was only for WoD.

blackcoldren I fought the Lore, and the Lore won. from The Lumberdesk Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Married to the job
I fought the Lore, and the Lore won.
#12737: Apr 24th 2014 at 11:19:11 AM

Even then it'd most likely be in my best interests to let the old dog lie. I know nothing of my first server anymore. And I'm no longer a fan of Pv P. Should just play the 30 something Druid.

Not dead, just feeling like it.
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#12738: Apr 24th 2014 at 11:37:13 AM

There is a tutorial mode in place now for boosted characters, as I recall. Anyway, as long as the character is at least level 60, you get your boost with free profession upgrades to 600, so pick any that meet that criteria.

If I were you, though, I'd level one character the normal way just so you get a feel for the content, unless you're determined to skip Cataclysm and Mists entirely, which seems a bit strange.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
blackcoldren I fought the Lore, and the Lore won. from The Lumberdesk Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Married to the job
I fought the Lore, and the Lore won.
#12739: Apr 24th 2014 at 11:41:02 AM

I played through Cataclysm, but most of Mists has been spent admiring mounts on the PTR. And I don't intend to go about buying Warlords of Draenor til release.

Not dead, just feeling like it.
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#12740: Apr 24th 2014 at 11:43:30 AM

Well, you'll be spending at least a few months in Mists, then, so I highly recommend leveling one character from 85 to 90 the normal way. It won't take you more than a few days, depending on how much you play. The Pandaria leveling content is very well-designed. Then you can make up your mind about which character you want to boost.

I have five level 90 characters right now, and I haven't preordered Warlords yet. When I do, I'll face a choice of whether I boost my Monk, who is languishing in the mid-30s, or my Mage, who's Horde and on a different realm. Monks level faster, but that would let me complete my "all professions at 600" meta achievement in record time. So who knows? I certainly won't have time for all six when Warlords drops.

edited 24th Apr '14 11:45:20 AM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Worlder What? Since: Jan, 2001
What?
#12741: Apr 24th 2014 at 6:50:54 PM

I wonder what you guys think of factionless or mixed faction B Gs?

Personally, I think it would be a great thing to have if one is willing to sacrifice some lore aspects of the game. By having factions be a temporary label in a Pv P match, both teams in a match would be subsets of the set consisting of all available players.

Of all the Pv P games that I know of, none of them makes the players stick to a faction virtually for life.

edited 24th Apr '14 7:02:08 PM by Worlder

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#12742: Apr 24th 2014 at 7:27:19 PM

Alpha Build 18179, Tweets, and a Screenshot from the Warcraft movie (which I will be posting in the relevant thread.

The OP of this thread on MMO-Champion has recieved a copy of the new book, War Crimes, early, and is willing to spoil things. Peruse at your own risk.

@blackcoldren: Your best bet at this point is either to:

  1. Peruse your old server's forum for any info on that forum.
  2. Create a level 1 or use of of your alts to check out what's going on on the server.
  3. Fork over the $25USD (or whatever it is in Euro if you live there) in order to server transfer; or
  4. You can send any heirlooms you might have cross-server and level up a new character or an old one.

@Worlder: I don't Pv P, so I can't give you any thoughts on that, but wasn't there a blue post or something explaining why they don't do it?

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
Worlder What? Since: Jan, 2001
What?
#12743: Apr 24th 2014 at 7:47:02 PM

Yes Holinka said that it is the last resort (or was it never on the table?)

Personally, I say that this persistent faction design has result in an Unstable Equilibrium where the Horde is equivalent to good players and the Alliance is equivalent to bad players.

This kind of situation can never occur in games like TF 2, Counter Strike, and World of Tanks. Games where faction labels disappear once the match is over.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#12744: Apr 24th 2014 at 8:16:58 PM

Blizzard has said they will never remove faction from battlegrounds. So we're stuck with that equilibrium issue.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
stevebat Since: Nov, 2009
#12746: Apr 25th 2014 at 4:56:38 PM

So, no flying at all in Draenor? Harumph, I can see the complaints, Particularly from those of the gathering professions but Garrisons might be a big enough benefit to allay that issue. Still the reason I liked flying around instead of using a path is because I have more fun taking a route myself instead of just alt tabbing away while the flight goes.

Apocalypse: Dirge Of Swans.
Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#12747: Apr 25th 2014 at 4:57:39 PM

You mean the people rightly pissed at removing something for no damn good reason, limiting people, taking away something we've spent years enjoying and sunk so damn much in game time and money on getting. Not to mention removing the vast majority of mounts from being in anyway useful.

What about the people that don't give a fuck about quests? Screw them over for nothing. Screw over farming, make everything take longer. Fine you don't want people to cheese quests and are to lazy to actually incorporate flying into the design. No flying till you get Loremaster for a zone or for the continent, boom issue solved, and people not screwed over.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#12748: Apr 25th 2014 at 5:05:38 PM

Yep, the people who are pissed off that Blizzard won't let them arbitrarily skip a large portion of the game's content for their personal convenience. See how it works both ways? You aren't automatically right because you pay money or because you feel very strongly about something.

edited 25th Apr '14 5:06:16 PM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#12749: Apr 25th 2014 at 5:09:51 PM

And you completely missed the whole "Have it unlocked after getting loremaster" part

Hey, does this mean everyone has to max out arena and BG wins every week, AND do every boss in the raid, I mean, we can't have people skipping content they don't want to do.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#12750: Apr 25th 2014 at 5:15:42 PM

You can always level up in BGs or dungeons. And who said anything about requiring Loremaster for flying?

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"

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