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Kinkajou I'm Only Sleeping from you're not your Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Hiding
I'm Only Sleeping
#65226: Apr 9th 2024 at 10:04:36 PM

[up][up] There's this, fwiw.

[up] And then there's Persona 1 with like sixteen. I'm guessing part of why P5 brought back Nuke and Psi was Cast Speciation; P4 was already running into problems with elemental overlap and that was with the smallest playable cast of the entire franchise (counting the P2 teams as a collective).

"Wait, it's IV. Of course they are. They'd make IV for Dreamcast." - Enlong, on yet another FFIV remake
Nofix from Over there Since: Jan, 2015
#65227: Apr 9th 2024 at 10:17:48 PM

Lowkey that's a reason why I want Persona 6 to have a smaller playable cast. Maybe like 4-6 characters, with the non-MC ones having specialized roles but with a greater degree of customization in terms of movesets.

You can still have a lot of Persona-users, just maybe have them be support roles or do stuff other than fighting.

RedHunter543 Team Rocket Boss. Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Team Rocket Boss.
#65228: Apr 9th 2024 at 10:21:53 PM

Who gets to do the mundane stuff like clean up the hide out?

I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.
asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#65229: Apr 9th 2024 at 10:28:56 PM

people always say why is mara but they never say how is mara

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RedHunter543 Team Rocket Boss. Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Team Rocket Boss.
#65230: Apr 9th 2024 at 10:52:09 PM

What is Mara anyway?

I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.
Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#65231: Apr 9th 2024 at 10:57:13 PM

Buddhist Demon of greed and lust. In Japanese ‘Mara’ is also slang for penis.

[up]x4 I would say 8 is really the minimum for a persona cast, there needs to be a variety of characters.

Edited by Memers on Apr 9th 2024 at 10:59:15 AM

RedHunter543 Team Rocket Boss. Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Team Rocket Boss.
#65232: Apr 9th 2024 at 11:01:16 PM

Well that I knew I was going with the world play.

But I gotta say, Mara being slang for penis in Japan is pretty hilarious.

I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.
Kinkajou I'm Only Sleeping from you're not your Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Hiding
I'm Only Sleeping
#65233: Apr 10th 2024 at 4:27:40 AM

I did like Reload giving everyone a specialization even with some elemental overlap.

Like Koromaru is a better Fire damage dealer than Junpei and has access to two elements but Junpei has access to all three Physical types and becomes a crit monster by the endgame. The Reload Combat Characteristics were generally stronger and more pronounced than Royal's party Persona traits.

"Wait, it's IV. Of course they are. They'd make IV for Dreamcast." - Enlong, on yet another FFIV remake
mstorzil Crimson Helios Since: Nov, 2019
Crimson Helios
#65234: Apr 10th 2024 at 10:48:43 AM

There's still something I just have to question about the final boss of the previous versions of 3. Why did Nyx's individual actions each count as a seperate turn outside of One Mores? Seriously, to my knowledge no other boss in the series works like that. Was it just a bug, or was it deliberate? Because either way, again, it's the only boss in the series like that, and it was effectively a huge middle finger to anyone bringing Aki.

No rain could douse the flames that burn within me!
asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#65235: Apr 11th 2024 at 7:05:30 PM

P3R style remix of Pull the Trigger from Q2

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FOFD Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
#65236: Apr 12th 2024 at 11:47:26 PM

Someone made a scenario asking "Could the Phantom Thieves steal Sora's heart?"

Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#65237: Apr 13th 2024 at 8:05:33 AM

The Palace of a Kingdom Hearts character is bound to drive someone insane, really.

Wake me up at your own risk.
Argon2 Since: Nov, 2012
#65239: Apr 14th 2024 at 1:43:04 AM

Hey, guys, I just finished Shadow Yukiko for the first time. So...not all Palace deadlines are going to be as tight as that one, right? Right?

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#65240: Apr 14th 2024 at 5:14:52 AM

The rule of thumb is, the deadline will be in the first week of the following month.

(so if a dungeon opens in July, you have to complete it by the second week of August)

Generally though you'll want to do them as soon as possible, really

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Kinkajou I'm Only Sleeping from you're not your Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Hiding
I'm Only Sleeping
#65241: Apr 14th 2024 at 5:46:12 AM

Off the top of my head:

Bathhouse deadline is in first week of June.
Strip club deadline is in first week of July.
Gamer dungeon deadline is in mid-August.
Secret base deadline is in first week of October.
Sixth dungeon is in mid-November, but you may want to complete it early.
Seventh dungeon is in late December, but you may want to complete it by December 22.

The last two dungeons are only available on one day each.

"Wait, it's IV. Of course they are. They'd make IV for Dreamcast." - Enlong, on yet another FFIV remake
Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#65242: Apr 14th 2024 at 2:32:05 PM

The important thing is after Yukiko’s dungeon you unlock the ability to heal without leaving.

terumokou Pitiable and Illegally Dumped Object from In a bamboo forest full of bunnies, California Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Mu
Pitiable and Illegally Dumped Object
#65243: Apr 14th 2024 at 4:56:18 PM

The next one could take a few days but it's still easy as hell to do it on one sitting thanks to being able to heal without leaving. After that you should have no problems taking them down in one go.

Burning love!
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#65244: Apr 14th 2024 at 5:40:37 PM

Generally speaking the deadline and overall difficulty of dungeons in Persona games is front loaded. By the time you get to like the third or fourth one you'll be in no particular rush.

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#65245: Apr 14th 2024 at 5:56:56 PM

Especially the first dungeon since you cant just pay Yen to heal. And it gets progressively cheaper as you increase in the related social link.

Kinkajou I'm Only Sleeping from you're not your Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Hiding
I'm Only Sleeping
#65246: Apr 15th 2024 at 8:33:03 AM

Another thing is that Shadow Yukiko has a higher level than Shadow Kamoshida and the Priestess Shadow. IIRC the former is around level 15 and the latter two are around level 12.

P4 also doesn't have the Baton Pass/Shift mechanic to make random encounters easier to deal with and it's the game where earning money early on is the hardest.

"Wait, it's IV. Of course they are. They'd make IV for Dreamcast." - Enlong, on yet another FFIV remake
Argon2 Since: Nov, 2012
#65247: Apr 16th 2024 at 1:34:29 AM

Okay. Thanks for your posts, everyone. They were very reassuring.

I just beat Shadow Kanji, so I'm feeling better about the schedule. And Shuffle Time is very nice, I wish they'd kept it in P5.

Nofix from Over there Since: Jan, 2015
#65248: Apr 16th 2024 at 1:40:30 AM

I liked Shuffle Time in P3, in the early game it was a much better means of getting new Persona than negotiating in early P5.

Speaking of P3 and P5, in the years since Persona 5 has released, the entirety of Persona -trinity soul- (which took place in 2019) has happened. I'm sure Persona 6 will have it be a pivotal part of the plot with plenty of call-backs and references to it.

Altris from the Vortex Since: Aug, 2019 Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
#65249: Apr 17th 2024 at 9:47:54 AM

Heh.

Started Innocent Sin again - not a replay, technically, since I got to about midgame before quitting the first time. Some thoughts:

I forgot that Maya and Yukino join so early, but it's always fun seeing competent adults in this series. Also, it's a nice touch that Yukino joins at a higher level than you.

I was also surprised at how quick the game gets going. There's no "discovering that the supernatural is real" extended-tutorial segment, except for Philemon's quick speech. Magic is real, and fifteen minutes in the main gang buys weapons to kill the main villain. I appreciate the initiative.

So, let's hang an anchor from the sun... also my Tumblr
darkabomination the Quantum Mechanic from cyberspace Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
the Quantum Mechanic
#65250: Apr 17th 2024 at 12:28:18 PM

Persona 1's like that too. After everyone gets shocked by lightning, hallucinate a vision of a butterfly man telling them to find their inner selves, and see a formerly sick friend walking around, they adapt real fast to killing demons. Guess that's what happens when you're in the same world as Devil Summoner.

"No will to break."

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