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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#48301: Jun 27th 2017 at 2:07:37 PM

Yea, that's uh...pretty far off base, like a lot lol.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#48302: Jun 27th 2017 at 2:14:16 PM

Yeah those are rather strong generalizations.

It helps that the game features texting so the gang can contact each other & discuss shit without ever actually physically hanging out.

edited 27th Jun '17 2:17:21 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#48303: Jun 27th 2017 at 2:14:37 PM

Ya know, like real teenagers.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#48304: Jun 27th 2017 at 2:17:11 PM

[up] Correct!

Tis the modern age of technological advancement & social media & all, heheh. tongue

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#48305: Jun 27th 2017 at 2:17:36 PM

Even if the dating doesn't involve blackmail, it's still very much blackmail to promise to keep someone's socially unacceptable job under wraps, use that knowledge to skip school and benefit in other ways, and repeatedly call that person over to clean your home for you.

Also, Ryuji and Joker are all about getting Ann naked for Yusuke, so two of those people involved allegedly are friends.

edited 27th Jun '17 2:19:05 PM by Hashil

dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#48306: Jun 27th 2017 at 2:18:51 PM

[up]Which is still different from "blackmail their teachers into dating them."

Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#48307: Jun 27th 2017 at 2:19:39 PM

But is still incredibly fucked up. I might of generalized a bit, but there are still so many things wrong with her social link it's staggering.

dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#48308: Jun 27th 2017 at 2:20:56 PM

[up]If you want to complain about the non-dating part of her Social Link, it's not a good idea to open up with "blackmail their teachers into dating them."

edited 27th Jun '17 2:21:21 PM by dragonfire5000

Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#48309: Jun 27th 2017 at 2:24:57 PM

The entire reason she falls for you is because you've been blackmailing her into cleaning your place.

They're related, if indirectly.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#48310: Jun 27th 2017 at 2:26:49 PM

I believe its more of a deal, you don't out me & I provide you services while also not telling the school the called me up the in the first place.

You still have to pay a lot of money to talk to her.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#48311: Jun 27th 2017 at 2:27:21 PM

[up]So...you're basically paying her to do her side job?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#48312: Jun 27th 2017 at 2:33:55 PM

[up] Pretty much.

Your like her only regular costumer as she really needs the money so she doesn't mind you calling her much as long as you can provide compensation. You have to pay 5,000 yen every time you call her no matter if can progress though her link with that encounter.

I'd like to think Joker is trying to support her cause he's a nice enough guy & not to keep her under his thumb.

edited 27th Jun '17 2:35:14 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#48313: Jun 27th 2017 at 3:33:58 PM

It's not blackmail because she proposes the deal.

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#48314: Jun 27th 2017 at 3:43:11 PM

She also threatens to stop letting you slack off in class if your grades start to slip.

Song of the Sirens
deludedmusings Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#48315: Jun 27th 2017 at 3:59:05 PM

Yeah, it's really not blackmail at all. The pre-social link meeting is all about them being each others secret keeper.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#48316: Jun 27th 2017 at 4:05:53 PM

Yea, it's explicitly a mutually beneficial relationship (as with most Confidants). You keep her secret and she'll offer services so as long as you pay her.......God, it actually does sound messed up on paper lol.

Rest assured though, their relationship does address a lot of the implications of such a relationship and Kawakami tries to break it off numerous times to avoid the social stigma on both of them. Joker is just incredibly persistent, but it's expressly for her own well-being as much as it is yours.

Now granted, it gets even more complicated if you decide to romance her but that's a different can of worms.

As for the other point, Yusuke had blackmailed Ann into posing nude or else he'd report the group for trespassing (which is incredibly jarring given his later characterization). Joker and Ryuji only coerce her to open up a specific door in his house because they couldn't get past a certain portion of the palace and needed to change the owner's cognition before they could proceed.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#48317: Jun 27th 2017 at 4:10:14 PM

[up]I chalked it up to Yusuke having lousy social skills for now, since that's where I currently am on my current playthrough.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#48318: Jun 27th 2017 at 4:24:31 PM

Naw man. Yusuke's lack of social skills usually manifests itself as being a bit of an oddball later on in the game, but he's outright malicious in his opening. And nobody ever addresses it later on either, not even the one he was blackmailing.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#48319: Jun 27th 2017 at 4:26:18 PM

I'd chalk up Yusuke's behavior to anger at the group for trespassing & for their accusations at the man who is essentially his father.

Though characterization marches on is also a thing.

Ann accepting to pose nude was literally the only way to complete the mission though considering the amount of clothes she wore & how she handled the whole situation I don't think anyone really expected her to actually pose nude.

edited 27th Jun '17 4:27:18 PM by slimcoder

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#48321: Jun 27th 2017 at 5:18:02 PM

He was more on the whole 'exotic' thing rather than beautiful.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#48322: Jun 27th 2017 at 6:50:30 PM

And he bought lobsters for art instead of eating them. Guy puts his artistic desire over reason several times.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#48323: Jun 27th 2017 at 7:05:53 PM

There's a reason he's consistently poor.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#48324: Jun 27th 2017 at 7:07:46 PM

I still wonder what happened to those lobsters.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
vicarious
#48325: Jun 27th 2017 at 9:22:08 PM

He could probably keep them as pets

And they can live forever


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