Haruhi Suzumiya

I always thought the point of Surprise was to show Haruhi actually doing something. She basically (subconsciously) nails the plot by herself. Which was a nice contrast from earlier and basically opened up the idea of progress on her part. Honestly, it basicly opened up the whole thing to go in different directions.

I would totally agree with that. While I suppose you could end there, I agree with the above. Would have been nice to see Sasaki more.

Discar: If you feel like it, by all means write a post or PM with your thoughts. I enjoy discussions which challenge my thoughts and opinions, and I don't take offense to it. As for Sasaki: as kiukiuclk said, this novel was clearly designed to get around the problem of how Haruhi being Locked Out of the Loop made it difficult to involve her in the main plots of her own series, so there were limits on how much Sasaki could have been allowed to solve the problem. The author clearly wanted Haruhi front and center.

This might be something that has been discussed before, but I'm hoping such a knowledgeable fandom will indulge me.

It's mentioned on the main page that anyone who is given a full name is inevitably supernatural in origin. In volume 8 (Indignation), the girl Kyon goes on a not-date with gets a full name: Yoshimura Miyoko. However, I couldn't find any reference to her origins/powers. Or was it a mistranslation or something?

The author also really likes playing with tropes, even the internal ones. That could be an exception, or maybe we'll find out something about her later. But currently, the only thing exceptional about her is that she's Younger Than They Look.

Haruhi Hunting

This some kind of game or something?

edited 26th May '14 11:56:07 PM by Stryker115

Seems it. Looks like an ARG to me.

Something, yeah. The goal is to find 'fragments' of memory and take photos of them with a smartphone. Guess something good will happen once all of them are found?

As long as the "something good" is a new season (or movie) I am fine.

Seriously, what happened to Haruhi? I remember when she was the hottest stuff in the Internet. Why did it fade away so much? Was the effect Endless Eight so terrible?

It stopped continuing more than anything I think. The last novel was released in 2011 AFAIK. Not sure what happened. Maybe the author had health issues or something. Also, Kyo Ani never decided to make another season despite having plenty of material(they have 6+ books to work with. You could even do another two seasons and then a movie out of Surprise if it did well enough. )

I think it's the fact that it stopped producing material more than anything else.

Well, yeah. I know the hype dies out when it lack of material to be hyped for. But is that the egg or the chicken? Why did they stopped making the anime when they could have made a season or two out of what the novels that already exist? The obvious reason is because it didn't worth anymore. And I figured it didn't worth anymore because the hype faded out.

Anyway, I found this interesting post on the subject. The theory is that Kadokawa mainly publish anime to promote the original material. But since the novel release schedule is sparse at best, they figured it didn't worth making the anime anymore.

Not sure how true this is, but it is an explanation at last.

The anime is strictly an advertisement for the novels. It is not considered an entertainment property unto itself. As long as there isn't a steady stream of new novels, there cannot be more anime. Doesn't matter how popular that anime is.

I think the author just has writer's block.

College was the shark jump. As a ficcer I can only suggest a DOFP plot to tell Kyon he's done something wrong and needs to go back and fix things.

...College? This series hasn't had anything to do with college at all.

The most recent book had Kyon traveling through time and meeting Haruhi's college self actually. Albeit only for a few pages.

Wasn't that nothing more than a split second? About a paragraph?

He has seen the promised land, but she was really surprised, because he didn't live to get there.

She says "Say, you look a little younger don't you?" and then poof, back to plot.

x3

I just checked my copy. It was two half pages plus one full page. So basically two pages.

I just went back to read that now and...

Eh, it was just an assumption he made. The age can be assumed as correctly guessed (ie. college age), but the location wasn't made certain. I'd want to see the original text to understand the context in which the word "students" was used.

I'm pretty sure it's exactly what it seemed like, but I don't see how it's a problem either way. He was there for less than a minute. It's a background detail, not some massive game-changing event. If you're abandoning the books because of that one scene, I can't help you.

I'm not saying I'm abandoning it, but that the author has hit the jump the shark moment and having delivered the happy ending can't see a ways forward.

That one scene was not a magical happy ending moment. It was a hint of a happy ending, but if you take Kyon kissing Haruhi out of context, that could easily be seen the same way.

It's not like it's a giant surprise. In no other work of fiction has a woman so stacked the deck against the choices of her suitor. (Thereby allowing herself complete freedom to do as she pleases, secure in the knowledge that he can not escape.)

So you're pissed because it's now predestined to end Haruhi/Kyon?

Uhm, this series HAS dealt with alternate time lines you know...