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Aren't evocations supposed to be a personal thing? If a dragon blooded got hold of the sword they'd likely have a totally different set.

Yes, those are technically just examples.

But, putting an example tree that does X and locking it out still puts a damper on "homebrewing" the tree that does exact same X but without the lockout.

Basically, it's developers' intent: by putting that solar-only lock, they are disapproving of any non-solar from using Volcano Cutter in this manner. With homebrew you can always tell them to shove it, but their intent is still there.

edited 16th Feb '15 2:21:59 AM by Adannor

Congratulations, Cathak Sesus! Your bond with Volcano Cutter lets you call it to your hand, something no other Dragonblood can do with their sword! (It's all in how much you're willing to fudge to not make more work for yourself.)

As a practical matter, most of the time whoever picked up Artifact X is going to just so happen to unlock the published Evocations because they're already there and presumably pretested for balance and such.

Do you guys know if there's any fan material released yet, based on the 3e rules? Like character sheets, or maps of the charm trees?

Suffer not the witch to live.

The core isn't out yet. It's unlikely (good) fan material will exist until it does so, leak or not.

There are charmtree maps and an excel based charsheet already, plus attempts at homebrew firearms weapon tags and I think a whole artefact a couple tg threads back.

edited 17th Feb '15 12:43:59 AM by Adannor

Since at least a few people here must be munchkins (I'm an amateur one), I made a little analysis based on the charm trees on http://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/general-exalted-thread.44/page-246#post-2791871

It only shows those charms that have a requisite of Skill 5, Essence 5. Though it must be noted that in many cases they're not very good to take at the beginning, either because they scale with essence, or because they give some nice bonus to the really valuable pre-requisite.

The list shows how many charms you need to take in order to get that one (including the charm itself). Oddly enough, it seems that, if you invest heavily enough, all of them are available at Character Creation: You get 15 charms, plus 3 more with bonus points (you still need at least 2 bonus points to get your skill to 5 though). I hope this is of some use to you, guys.

• Archery:

Whispered prayer of judgment, 7.

• Athletics:

Living Wind Approach, 7; Nine Aeons Thew, 6.

• Awareness:

Eye of the Unconquered Sun (Essence 4), 5; dedicated unerring ear (essence 4), 4.

• Brawl:

Apocalypse Flare attack, 5; Ascendant Battle Visage, 8.

• Bureaucracy:

Order-Conferring Action, 5.

• Craft:
• Exegesis of the Distilled Form, 12. Spirit-Stoking Elevation, +1.
• Sun-Heart Tenacity, 12 (14 if you take Exegesis). Wonder-Forging Genius, 15; Dual Magnus Prana, 16 (requires terrestrial sorcery).
• Dodge:
• Refinement of Flowing Shadows, 5.
• Integrity:

Nothing

• Investigation:

Mind Manse Meditation, 10.

• Larceny:

Unbroken Darkness Approach, 12.

• Linguistics:

Perfect Celestial Author (essence 4), 6.

• Lore:
• God-King’s Shrike, 6; Incalculable Flowing Mind, 8; Unstoppable Magnus Approach, +3.
• Savant of Nine Glories, 9.
• Medicine:

Immaculate Solar Physician, 6; Perfect Celestial Chirurgeon, +1.

• Melee:

Protection of Celestial Bliss, 5; Circle of Bright Reaving, 7.

• Occult:

Note: Solar Circle Sorcery can’t be taken with the effect of a Supernal Ability. Ephemeral Induction Technique, 11; Spirit-Drawing Occulus, 5.

• Performance:

Soul Voice, 5; Pivotal Encore Performance, +1.

• Presence:

Countenance of Vast Wrath (essence 4), 4.

• Resistance:

Aegis of invincible might, 7.

• Ride:

Nothing

• Sail:

Nothing

• Socialize:

Fugue-Empowered Other, 10; Soul Reprisal +1. At your service, 17.

• Stealth:

False Image Feint (essence 4), 7 Fivefold Shadow Burial (essence 4), 8.

• Survival:

Nothing

• Thrown:

Cutting Circle of Destruction, 5.

• War:

Nothing.

PS: Sorry for the awful indentation, I'm quite a noob in TV Tropes' formatting system.

edited 17th Feb '15 5:51:33 AM by Gamabunta

Suffer not the witch to live.

Thanks in no small part to the efforts of no fewer than three of my fellow Tropers, I now have a copy. My eternal thanks to them. My eternal condemnation of Adannor, who just pointed and laughed.

The combat system is interesting. Very interesting. I'd have to see it in play to even be able to analyze it properly. Hopefully, though, it does its intended job of heightening storytelling and making combat more epic and involved.

Also, thanks, Gamabunta, this is actually quite helpful, as well as the knowledge that you can totally do it with your Supernal Ability at char creation for less than half your total Charms.

If you meet me have some courtesy, have some sympathy, have some taste. Use all your well-learned politesse or I'll lay your soul to waste.

I am just going to keep pointing and laughing at your hypocrisy of condemning the chans as horrible places while enjoying the fruits of their work.

And also condemning me for not breaking this site's rules for you but praising those that did.

edited 17th Feb '15 8:28:04 AM by Adannor

Wow, you actually took that seriously?

If you meet me have some courtesy, have some sympathy, have some taste. Use all your well-learned politesse or I'll lay your soul to waste.

@Gamabunta:

• Asterisk

After hitting enter

• Double asterisk

There ends my quickie primer on the relevant formatting.

Couple of those capstone Craft charms are pretty pointless to get out of chargen, as you need to spend some quality time with the craft system to be able to pay the activation cost.

edited 17th Feb '15 11:07:17 AM by rikalous

There was also an interesting tendency noted: the charm trees are very heavily end-loaded in regards to Ability requirements. Some trees don't even have any charms at 1-2 dots.

Here's the full list ^note  Archery: 0-1-3-4-17
Athletics: 1-2-7-4-17
Awareness: 0-1-7-5-9
Brawl: 1-0-6-8-28
Bureaucracy: 2-1-3-2-16
Craft: 1-2-4-2-34
Dodge: 0-1-4-5-16
Integrity: 2-1-3-2-5
Investigation: 1-1-1-3-12
Larceny: 1-3-5-8-11
Linguistics: 1-0-5-4-17
Lore: 1-2-2-2-39
Medicine: 2-0-3-2-15
Melee: 2-2-6-6-21
Occult: 1-3-7-7-18
Performance: 0-1-6-11-18
Presence: 0-1-2-4-17
Resistance: 1-3-5-5-10
Ride: 1-2-7-5-20
Sail: 0-0-5-4-30
Socialize: 0-0-4-3-39
Stealth: 0-1-4-5-12
Survival: 1-2-4-4-14
Thrown: 1-1-3-5-14
War: 1-3-3-4-5\\

edited 17th Feb '15 11:22:53 AM by Adannor

Cripes, Socialize and Sail. Kind of an odd choice given that going above three in an Ability costs bonus points again.

Just realized, I haven't done the same for martial arts! Will fix ASAP

Suffer not the witch to live.

You are a treasure.

Oof, poor Eclipse castes from the West. Good thing they can learn everyone else's.

If you meet me have some courtesy, have some sympathy, have some taste. Use all your well-learned politesse or I'll lay your soul to waste.

Just gave a quick check to martial arts. There seems to be no charm requiring Essence 5. The closest one is the cap charm for Crane Style, which needs essence 4.

I guess we won't be getting sidereal martial arts yet :P

Suffer not the witch to live.

Not until the Sidereal book hits, I assume. Also, the current plan for Sidereal Martial Arts last I heard was for them to cap out at Essence 5 so that a PC can actually use them.

Doesn't look like Eclipses learn other Exalts' Charms anymore, actually. The description of the Charmshare anima power doesn't mention Exalts and none of the Exalt Charms in the antagonists section have the Eclipse-useable keyword.

edited 17th Feb '15 3:55:21 PM by rikalous

Yes, Eclipses no longer learn other Exalts charms, that was stated out a loong time ago.

Also it's less "poor eclipses in the west" and more "poor everybody else in the west".

Eclipses are most likely to have actual focus in Sail, which means five dots and lotta charms.

What the current status prevents is just dipping into it to grab the basics.

edited 17th Feb '15 3:58:15 PM by Adannor

They've basically turned the "Native" keyword inside-out. Now there's a bunch of charms with a note that eclipses can learn them.

edited 17th Feb '15 4:32:21 PM by Elfive

Whaaaaat? I just read that myself. Damn.

well, presumably water-aspected dragon-blooded will have lower ranked charms.

edited 17th Feb '15 4:33:35 PM by Frishman

If you meet me have some courtesy, have some sympathy, have some taste. Use all your well-learned politesse or I'll lay your soul to waste.

Related to crafting, I would houserule it to use the specialties from 2ed for the mundane charms, and just artifacts and geomancy for supernatural craft. If you take it as broadly as the manual implies, the xp sink would quickly become unbearable.

Suffer not the witch to live.

So, my sister is having a kid in April. She's gonna give him a normal name but I don't care. I'm giving that kid a sobriquet, a name worthy of Exalted, a Name That Unfolds Like Lotus Blossom, inspired by whatever conditions, mostly likely the condition of the sky, he might be born under.

So, any suggestions?

edited 17th Feb '15 8:11:25 PM by God_of_Awesome

Invincible Sword Princess is a classic.

First Born of Eternal Night, if they're the first born, and it's night when they're born.

Or maybe Empty Night's Aftermath if they're going Abyssal.

edited 17th Feb '15 11:41:03 PM by Ekuran