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DrTentacles Cephalopod Lothario from Land of the Deep Ones Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#2951: Apr 20th 2014 at 3:18:06 PM

I'm trying to figure out what use Solars would have for a crossbow. Other than "It looks cool." (Which tends to be the reasoning behind a lot of stuff Solars did.)

Firedust also isn't readily accessible in the North, since it has to be imported from what's basically the distance equivalent of the Cape of Good Hope to Norway, and crossbows have longer ranges than Flame pieces anyways.

edited 20th Apr '14 3:27:45 PM by DrTentacles

LMage Scion of the Dragon from Miss Robichaux's Academy Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#2952: Apr 20th 2014 at 3:28:10 PM

Compass: North, page 115 sayath:

Moreover, his early life among the Haslanti familiarized him with his people’s innovations and taught him the military value of clever machines. He’s never done more than fire a crossbow and ride an air boat, but his Craft Excellencies enable him to recall every visible detail of these devices and reconstruct them in his workshop. Raneth has already built a working crossbow and trained a pair of Plenilunar artisans in its manufacture. While the weapon is of little use to bowtrained icewalkers, Raneth believes it will be invaluable in arming local garrisons and levies.

edited 20th Apr '14 3:28:29 PM by LMage

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Elfive Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#2953: Apr 20th 2014 at 3:31:00 PM

Firedust still existed in the first age. The wyld was smaller and more controlled, but it was still there. Also the elemental pole of fire itself has just as much of a warping effect on the fabric of creation near it.

DrTentacles Cephalopod Lothario from Land of the Deep Ones Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#2954: Apr 20th 2014 at 3:31:35 PM

Hmm. Then it still might be possibly that Autocathon and the Haslanti invented it independent of each other in a sort of a technological parallel evolution thing.

(Also, just out curiosity, I did some rough googling, and found out it's ~5000 miles between the southmost City of the Haslanti League and Gem, and ~6500 miles between Oslo and Cape Town, as the crow flies.)

edited 20th Apr '14 3:33:36 PM by DrTentacles

Elfive Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#2955: Apr 20th 2014 at 3:38:29 PM

You need to remember that even in the first age creation was about 99% mortal, so a lot of people were running around who couldn't use the exalted's fancy essence weapons.

Hell, I'd wager a decent fraction of people went their entire lives without seeing a genuine celestial face to face. Half castes probably picked up a fairly large chunk of the slack.

edited 20th Apr '14 3:38:56 PM by Elfive

DrTentacles Cephalopod Lothario from Land of the Deep Ones Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#2956: Apr 20th 2014 at 3:40:56 PM

Assuming there was a such a creature known as "Half Castes," I'd assume they've be a able to pick up how to use a Longbow or other weapon that requires training in a extremely quick amount of time. In theory.

(Also, the need for large-scale armies still is pretty low when someone can walk in, and beat up your entire 10,000 man army with their eyes closed. After all, that's only a -4 penalty for blindness. I got the impression there were few large-scale heavy-mortal conflicts.)

edited 20th Apr '14 3:44:57 PM by DrTentacles

Elfive Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#2957: Apr 20th 2014 at 3:51:20 PM

Half castes are useful for explaining the existence of basic orichalcum and moonilver armor, which true celestials are unlikley to have settled for.

edited 20th Apr '14 3:52:03 PM by Elfive

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#2958: Apr 20th 2014 at 3:51:31 PM

With all the training charms, you can whip up an army of master longbowmen pretty quickly.

DrTentacles Cephalopod Lothario from Land of the Deep Ones Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#2959: Apr 20th 2014 at 3:52:55 PM

[up] That as well.

[up][up] I'd imagine high-essence Exalts in the first age would at least attempt to control Orichalcum/Moonsilver, if they could, and give them to people in their power-blocs.

edited 20th Apr '14 3:53:20 PM by DrTentacles

Elfive Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#2960: Apr 20th 2014 at 3:57:29 PM

Well, anyway, my point was that people with training charms consisted of such a small fraction of the population that a sizeable fraction of it would have needed to make do without any such assistance.

edited 20th Apr '14 3:57:43 PM by Elfive

3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#2961: Apr 21st 2014 at 8:23:29 AM

First Age did have Plasma Tongue Repeater and the bazooka version of that *notes*

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#2962: Apr 22nd 2014 at 2:15:23 PM

I had an Idea how to adapt some parts of Gunstar Autochthonia and the normal world of Exalted into a campaign idea.

Creation is dying. While the Reclamation is in full swing, the Yozi’s actions have poisoned the very foundation of creation, threatening to dissolve it into the Wyld again. Yu-Shan is locked and inaccessible. The only hope Creation has is to find someone who can fix it: Autochthon.

Desperate to find him, the Exalted have put aside their differences and pooled their resources. The remnants of the Realm and Lookshy, after the death of the Scarlet Empress and the devastation of the Blessed Isle. Solar and Lunar Anathema. Sidereals, now remembered again by the world due to the Yozi’s machinations and exiled from heaven. Rogue Abyssals desperate to prevent their masters greatest dream.

Using the combined powers of the Sun, Moon, Stars and the Dragons, the Exalted have managed to build a great ship to be able to fly through the void, following the sparse leads to find the Great Maker. A crew is to be selected to man this ship into its most dangerous mission. But the Yozi are not blind to this and build their own Voidships to follow the Shrike and realize their own plans for the Great Maker. And the Neverborn feel blessed oblivion closer than ever.

They have 183 days until creation dies.

(a cookie for everyone who gets what I'm ripping off this time tongue Dr, Kosjurake and Rik don't count.)

edited 22nd Apr '14 2:33:42 PM by 3of4

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#2963: Apr 22nd 2014 at 2:54:48 PM

Could the reclamation actually fix the Sidereals arcane fate? They kinda broke a constellation.

Adannor from effin' belarus Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
#2964: Apr 22nd 2014 at 2:59:58 PM

The Yozi could break it to the point that EVERYBODY is inside Arcane Fate.

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#2965: Apr 22nd 2014 at 3:03:59 PM

Something like that.

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#2966: Apr 22nd 2014 at 3:07:01 PM

Aye, that ought to do it, actually.

Of course, with the sidereals exposed and creation on the brink the odds of one of them fessing up about the immaculate order rises exponentially.

3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#2967: Apr 22nd 2014 at 3:09:18 PM

Well, I figure its in a place after Return, which ended in a horrible phyrric victory, Her Redness dead, though it wiped out most of the blessed isle and by extension the majority of the immaticulate order.

The DB's are either remnants of the Realm and the rest or went Akuma and serve as mooks for the Yozi in their attempt to conquer creation the hard way.

edited 22nd Apr '14 3:10:20 PM by 3of4

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#2968: Apr 22nd 2014 at 3:11:58 PM

Right, so that puts the number of living sidereals at a half-dozen or so then.

3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#2969: Apr 22nd 2014 at 3:15:04 PM

That too. Solars and Lunars are also pretty depleted during the constant war. And the loyalist Abyssals are...notably absent. (mainly because the neverborn don't want a redo of Fa FL's screwup by overdoing it again)

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#2970: Apr 22nd 2014 at 3:26:07 PM

That's a temporary problem, obviously. Thing about celesial exalts is that unless you do something drastic even a complete genocide will last a couple of months before they start popping up like daisys again.

3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#2971: Apr 22nd 2014 at 3:29:59 PM

Sure, someone has to stop the Yozi-forces from winning while the Ship gets out to find auto-kun after all ;)

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Elfive Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#2972: Apr 22nd 2014 at 3:43:00 PM

I think there is one possibility ROTSE brought up that works quite well as a stopgap. Namely going off into the wyld and setting up a "New Creation" to bolster forces and stuff.

I imagine a post-empress government that welcomes the solars and lunars back into the fold would be a fair bit more egalitarian than the first age one. Votes for everone and a hundred seats for dragonblooded elders, minimum, I reckon.

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#2973: Apr 22nd 2014 at 3:48:38 PM

An Abyssal Exaltation:

"Where.....am I?

"What....was I doing just now?

"Heavy, sleepy....too tired to think.

"Who....was I, again?

"Who....I don't care.

"It's not important anyway.

"Doesn't matter....

....

BUT IT DOES!

"Keep your hands off of me! Don't screw with me!

"This is NOT the end of me! I damn well won't end it all here!

"Do you hear me? I am NOT dying on this spot!

"I never chose to be born into this insane world, and I won't fade away without anybody knowing about me! Without being needed by anyone! Without being hated by anyone!

"I'll make them learn! I'll give them something to worry about! I'll screw up their best-laid plans! I'll claw my way into this world, and leave a mark that will never fade! A mark to prove I EXISTED!"

3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#2974: Apr 22nd 2014 at 3:54:02 PM

[up][up]Well, my idea is focused on the Ship and its mission more then the state of creation. Best outcome would be of course the return of Auto-kun, him going to fix the damage to creation while the Alchemicals support the remaining Exalted in kicking infernal behind.

Best case scenario ^^

edited 22nd Apr '14 3:54:12 PM by 3of4

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#2975: Apr 22nd 2014 at 6:17:48 PM

[up]x12ish

I don't know why you listed me... I'm drawing a bit of a blank there. Also, I would totally play that campaign.

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