The Walking Dead

Is anyone else a little weirded out that when the black woman, I literally cannot remember her name, wanted to commit suicide no one even batted an eye or much mourned her and T-Dog has had precisely dick to do since the season 2 opener?

Weirdedout no annoyed yes.

But remember? Lori mentioned her once this season and T-Dog had some lines following his arm getting cut open and Rick talked into a walkie talkie hoping Morgan would hear it! Surely that counts for something!

I sure hope T-Dog does something soon.

edited 1st Mar '12 1:53:52 PM by Firebert

I'm okay with T-dog not doing anything so long as the cast and myself are forced to call him "T-dog". Seriously? That's the name you decided to run with?

If his given name is Taylor, then it would be perfectly understandable to me for him to never give that name out and instead use T-Dog...

There are a number of other names that start with "T" that I could see someone being embarrassed about... Though most of them involve his mother wanting a girl, and naming him as such...

edited 1st Mar '12 9:44:23 PM by Swish

Maybe Merle or somebody called him that and he was too polite to correct them.

Nooo, not Epic Eyebrow Guy!

(On the other hand, I was finding myself getting kinda annoyed with his moralizing. One time does not make a civlization-breaker.)

edited 4th Mar '12 7:54:36 PM by Nohbody

I'm more pissed at Carl than anything.

Yeah, he's now got a place on my list of "people I'd not mind seeing zombied". First just playing with the walker instead of GTFOing, then when he does finally leave he doesn't mention anything about it to others to let them know there may be an issue.

Really, so far in the show as a whole they've been communicating about all the wrong things, on average. I know people in tough situations don't always make decisions that the peanut gallery would consider to be best, but c'mon.

If Shane's gonna be an influence on Carl, he should at least teach the kid how not to throw like a pussy.

Bah, if it were up to Shane as to how much of an influence he could be on Carl, Carl would have been able to shoot from that tree stump(at least), rather than getting so close before the attempt.

edited 4th Mar '12 8:34:43 PM by Swish

So we all know Randall's gonna get that gun Carl dropped, right?

Good eye. I didn't think about that. Sad that they didn't address the fact that shane stabbed a walker in the head an then cut his hand, especially after that discussion about how those people were zombified but only bore scratches.

Also: No! Dale! I can't believe it. It may have something to do with the fact that my high peaked when they were discussing how to deal with their captive, but was anyone else so squicked by the dale/walker scene that they couldn't bear to watch it unfold? I'm a 26 year old grown man who collects zombie movies and that's the first time I was so squicked that I couldn't watch. Yikes.

My question: How was the walker holding Dale down if its hands were in his stomach? Think about that for a minute.

Well, he was obviously a ninja zombie to have snuck up on him like that, so he probably used some form of ninjutsu to keep him down.

The moment Randall started to talk about the girl's that got gang raped by his group and he described them as, "Real pretty, young too," with that grin on his face I lost every ounce of concern I had for his fate. Even if he didn't participate in the rape its certain a fond memory for him.

And that's why I think they screwed that up. Prior to that you could sympathize with Randall. His only real crime was being part of a group that they ran into and had a bad incident with. At best he took potshots at Rick, Glenn, and Herschel. They fucking killed two of the guys in his group. It was easy to sympathize with him as he was just a member of another group of survivors that had a rough run in with our group. It was all too easy to see how I could have been in his situation and I'd be terrified and pissed and feeling overall out of my head because they were going to kill me for... well nothing.

Then they had him fondly recall gang raping two young girls in front of their father and not killing them afterwards. At that point I was really hoping Daryl would just beat him to death and be done with it. They sucked all the personal drama with him out of the story and made him a bad guy. The irony being that Dale then goes and spends the entire episode campaigning to save this kid's life with the actor really acting his ass off to do it. I was on Dale's side with his arguements about maintaining their humanity. The problem was that I now knew from the show's opening that his efforts were misplaced with this kid.

Carl... ugh. After last episode I no longer care if this kid makes it. He's turning into some hyper-creepy burgeoning sociopath. And now we're stuck with this creepy kid instead of Dale.

I actually liked Dale. I think someone like him is really necessary in this kind of show. He's the voice of normality, of civilization. Instead of just going with the premise and not batting an eye when they decide to kill the kid he turns it into a federal case, railing against the inhumanity and lack of civilization. He is, well was, Shane's counterpoint. I think that character, even if you don't agree with him, brings a very useful dynamic to the group to play off of. A kind of straight man to call everyone else out on their insanity. Well that and he was a look out. Now Andrea is their main source of early warning and protection. They're fucked.

edited 6th Mar '12 4:51:49 AM by Tyyrlym

^^^ The walker wasn't holding him down. Dale's hands were busy keeping the walker's teeth away from him, which left the walker's hands free to rip into Dale's stomach.

edited 6th Mar '12 5:14:01 AM by Nohbody

The worst part is, despite Randall being a probable rapist, he's still more sympathetic and likable than most of the characters. Watching the last couple episodes from his perspective make it obvious how the group, especially Rick, can appear psychotic, what with the fakeout execution and pulling his leg off a fence and leaving him tied up in the middle of nowhere.

The problem is a lack of consistency and logic. Ripping his leg off the fence makes sense and it was a far more compassionate thing to do than leaving him as walker bait. The problem is that after showing him some compassion they immediately tie him up, dump him in walker territory with nothing but a knife. So... the fuck? He tries to explain himself only to have one of them almost shoot him. Then, he gets loose and helps Rick rescue Shane, only to be immediately tied back up and blind folded. Now he's in the barn and has Daryl beating the shit out of him for information after they almost let him go. Then they leave him alone... and Rick who was all gung ho about setting him free and keeping Shane from shooting him is putting a gun to his head. He gets asked if he wants to stand or kneel only to have someone force him to his knees. Then they stop.

There's no other logical conclusion for Randall but that these people are completely fucking insane. At this point my first order of business would be to find my old group, tell them where these nuts are, and wipe them out.

Well, damn. Also looks like they're bringing in the comic book zombification.

We still don't know what the CDC guy said, as Rick was surprised by Shane coming back.

Amazing episode last night. One of the best performances I've ever seen on television. The drama was completely on par with that of the classic Greek dramas. One can only hope this story will be taught in schools in 50 years.

I dunno about that but I do think this episode was one of the strongest of the season. I'm glad the Shane/Rick thing finally reached some resolution. There was only so much longer they could have kept that going before it got ridiculous...er.

Tone down the sarcasm, it wasn't that bad. I liked the beginning and end and T-Dog had multiple roles and lines ("AW HELL NAW!"), so I was content. Hopefully they leave the farm after next episode and the cast gets thinned out.

What sarcasm?