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AmethystLeslie Schezo Wegey confirmed for King from IRL Unova Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: He makes me feel like I have a heart
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#141951: May 4th 2016 at 12:40:24 PM

Psychic/Dark is a strange typing.

x4 weak to Bug, x2 to Fairy, immune to Psychic, and resists nothing.

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#141952: May 4th 2016 at 12:51:39 PM

But is it worse than ice?

... Resists one and is weak to four, but at least no quad damage?

Also "four times weak" sounds like it should be 16 times damage, since "weak to <type>" means double damage, so "double weak" is four times damage.

Unless "weak to <type>" has started to mean "1x damage" which I think is just called "Neutral damage"

edited 4th May '16 12:54:17 PM by Volatile-Fox

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#141953: May 4th 2016 at 12:55:30 PM

Just wait until they pull a weird one like Normal/Ghost.

thought it was a little silly how a few of the Gen 6 Mons have Normal tacked on them. I mean, It's only one more weakness and an immunity, but there's hardly much of a reason if you ask me.

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AmethystLeslie Schezo Wegey confirmed for King from IRL Unova Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: He makes me feel like I have a heart
Schezo Wegey confirmed for King
#141954: May 4th 2016 at 12:55:56 PM

x4 weak means it would do 4 times the amount it damage it would normally do, the x1 damage.

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#141955: May 4th 2016 at 1:04:50 PM

I know what you mean, but the way it sounds is wrong to me.

"Weak" means double damage, yes?

So by that logic, "2x weak" is "2x double damage" which would be 4x damage.

So when you say "4x weak" it just sort of escalates to "four times double damage" in my mind, which should be either 8x damage or 16x damage, depending how you decide the math should be done...

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#141956: May 4th 2016 at 1:08:26 PM

[up][up][up]It's pretty obvious that Gamefreak wants to fill in the type combination chart. I imagine a lot of Pokemon such as Ferrothorn, Galvantula, and Hawlucha were created around the unique type combination first, actual design second, while some such as Pyroar and Heliolisk had a Normal type tacked on just to check that combo off the list.

Not that I'm complaining.

edited 4th May '16 1:08:38 PM by Anomalocaris20

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#141957: May 4th 2016 at 1:08:55 PM

[up][up]That's because you're reading "weak" as "double damage", so you're reading "x4 weak" as 4 x 2, or 2^4. Other people are using x4 as a description of "weak", so x2 weak and x4 weak are two different types of "weak", one being x2 damage and other x4 damage.

edited 4th May '16 1:09:42 PM by KuroBaraHime

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#141958: May 4th 2016 at 2:17:47 PM

Ice is strong.

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#141959: May 4th 2016 at 2:34:54 PM

while some such as Pyroar and Heliolisk had a Normal type tacked on just to check that combo off the list.
Heliolisk I'll grant you, but Pyroar hits enough of the usual Normal-type ticks that I'd go either way on it.

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#141960: May 4th 2016 at 2:38:52 PM

Pyroar being Normal/Fire is something I have to try and remember.

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#141961: May 4th 2016 at 2:53:25 PM

[up][up][up]It helps that your opponent wasn't very bright.

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#141962: May 4th 2016 at 4:19:50 PM

Been playing through B2W2 PWT and noticed something.

The game says that legendary and mythical Pokemon can't participate. However, I can use Pokemon like Terrakion and Tornadus just fine. Apparently non box art trios are not counted as legendary in game.

edited 4th May '16 4:20:53 PM by flameboy21th

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#141963: May 4th 2016 at 4:27:23 PM

When Pokemon bans "legendary" Pokemon, it means Mewtwo, Mew, Lugia, Ho-oh, Celebi, Groudon, Kyogre, Rayquaza, Jirachi, Deoxys, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Manaphy, Phione, Darkrai, Shaymin, Arceus, Victini, Reshiram, Zekrom, Kyurem, Keldeo, Meloetta, Genesect, Xerneas, Yveltal, Zygarde, Diancie, Hoopa, and Volcanion.

Anything else is fair game.

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#141964: May 4th 2016 at 4:29:37 PM

That's always been the case. Every battle facility and standard official tournament rules ban box legends + Mewtwo, but allow any other non-event legendary.

Actually, as far I can find the Japanese version refers to the banned Pokemon as "legendary class" Pokemon, instead of just "legendary" Pokemon.

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#141965: May 4th 2016 at 4:33:24 PM

Box legends + Mythical + Mewtwo + Deoxys + Zygarde

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#141966: May 4th 2016 at 4:38:49 PM

Deoxys is still considered a Mythical Pokemon. But yeah, I guess Zygarde isn't a box legend...

Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#141967: May 4th 2016 at 4:49:15 PM

I wonder if they'll bother to block Mews from the Mew Glitch coming in.

It'll be an unofficial ex-Mythic too, in that case.

Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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#141968: May 4th 2016 at 4:53:13 PM

I'm not sure if they'll be able to block Mew Glitch generated mons, because I don't believe RBY keeps track of where you captured something (which would give away that they're glitched). They will obviously be able to block Missingno. and co. because the games don't recognize them as real mons.

edited 4th May '16 4:54:53 PM by Karxrida

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Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#141969: May 4th 2016 at 4:54:43 PM

It'd be easy enough to block it if they really wanted.

Just prevent Mews that aren't from events from getting in, or that weren't caught on Faraway Island, which is still to date the only legal way to capture one iirc.

Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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#141970: May 4th 2016 at 4:55:52 PM

I don't think RBY's code recognizes events unless they've modded it more than we realize. Unless they did it based off of Trainer ID.

edited 4th May '16 4:58:34 PM by Karxrida

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Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#141971: May 4th 2016 at 4:58:26 PM

It's possible there's something going on in the background of the VC releases that we don't know about.

But yeah. It's not really that huge an issue (or as well known outside the more dedicated fandom as we might think) that they'd take too many more steps than the bare minimum to block them.

AmethystLeslie Schezo Wegey confirmed for King from IRL Unova Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: He makes me feel like I have a heart
Schezo Wegey confirmed for King
#141972: May 4th 2016 at 5:01:15 PM

I really hope I can transfer Mew. I really do.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#141973: May 4th 2016 at 5:21:32 PM

That's always been the case. Every battle facility and standard official tournament rules ban box legends + Mewtwo, but allow any other non-event legendary.

Actually, as far I can find the Japanese version refers to the banned Pokemon as "legendary class" Pokemon, instead of just "legendary" Pokemon.

Though several of the Japan-only download tournaments ended on battles with banned Pokemon.

edited 4th May '16 5:23:42 PM by Pulse

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#141975: May 4th 2016 at 5:46:14 PM

Yes.

Though you were talking to a guy using a non-Scarfed Ditto, so he really wasn't in a position to question your choice.

edited 4th May '16 5:48:14 PM by Karxrida

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