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Vertigo_High Touch The Sky Since: May, 2010
Touch The Sky
#128301: Oct 9th 2015 at 10:16:48 PM

I think there's some eastern mythology thing involving bulls/oxs and element breathing. Remember that Bowser is not even a dragon, but a giant ox turtle thing and can definitely breathe fire.

edited 9th Oct '15 10:17:03 PM by Vertigo_High

BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#128302: Oct 9th 2015 at 10:25:52 PM

Is there one for rats?

Because Rattata gets Thunderbolt and Ice Beam.

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Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#128303: Oct 9th 2015 at 10:27:26 PM

5 Base Attack Chansey also gets Earthquake.

Don't look into Gen I movepools too closely.

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superboy313 Since: May, 2015
#128304: Oct 9th 2015 at 10:28:53 PM

Here's a crossover scenario: Ash, Serena, Clemont, and Bonnie face Porky Minch from the Mother series. How would their battles/confrontations go down and what would they think of each other?

edited 9th Oct '15 10:31:07 PM by superboy313

Vertigo_High Touch The Sky Since: May, 2010
Touch The Sky
#128305: Oct 9th 2015 at 10:29:56 PM

[up][up]She's pretty fat so I sort of get it.

Lickitung not learning lick in Gen 1 easily wins dumbest move moment of the series though. Also making Togekiss a fairy type and giving it one fairy move learned naturally, that one being the weakest power wise and NOT Draining Kiss despite kiss being in it's name.

edited 9th Oct '15 10:32:19 PM by Vertigo_High

RhymeBeat Bird mom from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#128306: Oct 9th 2015 at 10:33:28 PM

Dazzling Gleam isn't the weakest Fairy Move, that would be Fairy Wind.

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Vertigo_High Touch The Sky Since: May, 2010
Touch The Sky
#128307: Oct 9th 2015 at 10:34:15 PM

I said naturally, it doesn't learn dazzling gleam naturally.

[down]I'm still surprised it doesn't learn it. Shame since I think it's pretty design wise and has a wonderful cry.

edited 9th Oct '15 10:35:57 PM by Vertigo_High

Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#128308: Oct 9th 2015 at 10:34:27 PM

Huh. It's always Togekiss, too. Even in Japan.

Yeah, no real excuse there.

I still think Lumineon needs a bone throw to it in the form of Quiver Dance.

Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
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BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
The Fastest Man Alive
#128310: Oct 9th 2015 at 11:33:20 PM

"XY&Z" in that format is the name of the new season of the anime.

Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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#128311: Oct 9th 2015 at 11:33:43 PM

Togekiss doesn't even need Fairy moves when Air Slash is the go-to STAB option on most sets. I don't think Fairy even hits anything relevant that Aura Sphere and Fire Blast miss out on.

According to a Japanese-speaking friend of mine, the trademark is just for anime stuff.

edited 9th Oct '15 11:50:47 PM by Karxrida

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flamemario12 Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Mu
#128312: Oct 10th 2015 at 12:45:04 AM

Since Togekiss is Normal/Flying until Generation 6, I decided to see will Hyper Voice will be great on Togekiss...

->Togekiss can also use Hyper Voice as a second STAB move, but this does not offer any meaningful coverage alongside Air Slash, so it should generally be avoided. -smogon

alright how about double battles...

->Hyper Voice is Togekiss's strongest spread move and benefits from STAB, but its poor coverage is disappointing.-still smogon

EDIT: aw screw this

edited 10th Oct '15 12:56:45 AM by flamemario12

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#128313: Oct 10th 2015 at 12:47:15 AM

Togekiss generally prefers Tri Beam. You lose 10 points of power, but you gain a good chance of inflicting status.

Problem is it's exclusive to the Togepi you get from Pokemon XD, so getting a good Nature/IV's on it is next to impossible without RNG manipulation tools.

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Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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#128314: Oct 10th 2015 at 12:49:16 AM

[up]x2 Spread reduction means it has a BP lower than Air Slash, plus Togekiss has no room or use for it due to its Doubles sets being mostly mono-attack supporters.

edited 10th Oct '15 12:50:16 AM by Karxrida

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GM_3826 (Not) A Game Master from Ylisse Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
(Not) A Game Master
#128315: Oct 10th 2015 at 5:12:03 AM

I think just as stupid as Lickitung not learning Lick in Gen I is Hypno not learning Dream Eater naturally... Today.

edited 10th Oct '15 5:12:15 AM by GM_3826

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#128316: Oct 10th 2015 at 5:31:22 AM

What about Mawile learning NONE of the fang moves naturally?

Malco from the Gungeon Since: Oct, 2015
#128317: Oct 10th 2015 at 5:39:33 AM

By the way guys... everyone is pushing Outrage and Draco Meteor... why, Normal has Thrash or Double-Edge or Boomburst...

Not our fault there's no Normal-type Psuedo-Legendary or anything close to that good. Or they removed the existing good ones (like Togekiss) and turned it into fairies.

edited 10th Oct '15 5:56:28 AM by Malco

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#128318: Oct 10th 2015 at 6:03:07 AM

They have worse distribution, and cannot be used for coverage, only STAB.

YamiiDenryuu Since: Jan, 2010
#128319: Oct 10th 2015 at 7:05:25 AM

XYZ doesn't sound like that bad of a name for the third version, actually, though I do wonder why it would be that over just Z. Maybe it would feature all three box mascots instead of Zygarde in some way...

edited 10th Oct '15 7:05:44 AM by YamiiDenryuu

Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#128320: Oct 10th 2015 at 7:59:55 AM

A faux sense of originality like BW2 if I had to guess.

They know that the 3rd versions sell worse so I could see them trying what they can to change the perception that it's more of the same.

edited 10th Oct '15 8:00:12 AM by Hashil

ElementX Since: Jan, 2001
#128321: Oct 10th 2015 at 8:19:27 AM

Yeah, XYZ just sounds like a clunky name. Hope they don't do that over just Z so fans won't expect it.

Unless they're planning a pair of sequels, XZ and YZ.

Anyway I think Z or whatever is going to be a lot more than just a Platinum-style redux. I think they're done with that.

edited 10th Oct '15 8:20:19 AM by ElementX

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#128322: Oct 10th 2015 at 8:21:06 AM

And I finally broke down and bought a copy of Y too, which I doubt I'll have played before the third version comes out. Typical.

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ElementX Since: Jan, 2001
#128323: Oct 10th 2015 at 8:24:07 AM

Corocoro should be leaking any day now, right? Hopefully we get a real confirmation, it seems about that time especially if they're aiming for a spring release.

Malco from the Gungeon Since: Oct, 2015
#128324: Oct 10th 2015 at 8:47:57 AM

I'm just replaying X right now.

With my region reset at the start of that game, I should be making Snow Pattern Vivillons. Once I gain access to the IV checker I should probably breed some battle ready ones.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#128325: Oct 10th 2015 at 1:23:04 PM

This was released a few days ago.

edited 10th Oct '15 1:23:24 PM by VeryMelon


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