I was quoting from the example about Mao. I know he doesn't fit the stereotype but I was asking about the stereotype he wasn't fulfilling to see if that was tropable. I've never heard of most of these works and wanted to ask.
The reasoning behind these examples I didn't wick to Stereotypes of Chinese People is that I feel like there's something there, related to Stereotypes of Chinese People, but wasn't it. I could be insane, who knows.
I suspect there's an appearance subtrope and the chef stereotype that could become tropes. Two of the examples also had "Mongolian acting like Chinese" or something, which might be a trope in and of itself if we knew the reasoning behind it.
So would "acts Chinese, looks Japanese" be a separate related trope?
One Piece blog Beyond the LampshadeIf a character acts like a Chinese stereotype and is evidently set up to be thought of as such, only to be revealed as another nationality, I think that counts as playing with the trope. Kind of like the stereotypically Italian barber in Sweeney Todd who turns out to be Irish.
Is this thread done, or are people still working on something?
Calling someone a pedant is an automatic Insult Backfire. Real pedants will be flattered.Wow, completely forgot about this with the Yu Gi Oh stuff. Most of the clean up is done. Right now, I have the list on the bottom of the last page of stuff I thought could fit into another trope or was an example of Playing With Stereotypes of Chinese People but wasn't sure about.
There appears to be a chef and a Mongolian stereotype in there. "Acts Chinese, Looks Japanese" is either Playing With or even a separate subtrope.
One Piece blog Beyond the LampshadeChinese Chef might be a thing. I haven't seen many mongolian characters, except for Hordes from the East; I can't think of stereotypes beyond traditional clothing, maybe references to yurts. "Looks Chinese but is actually Japanese" seems like a Playing With thing. And I think it's OK for all the Hetalia type stuff to just point at the supertrope.
Calling someone a pedant is an automatic Insult Backfire. Real pedants will be flattered.Anything left to do, or is it lock time?
Fight smart, not fair.If you think Chinese Chef is a viable subtrope, then we can take that to YKTTW. Other than that, I think we are done.
One Piece blog Beyond the LampshadeAlrighty then, hollering for lock.
Fight smart, not fair.
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The page is about how Chinese people are stereotyped in media, it is not a page on Chinese people themselves.
Any example which is explicitly for a non-ethnically-Chinese character is Not An Example., i.e. the character in question "has many of the traits [of a stereotypical Chinese] but is ethnically Japanese" is really, really not a logical example.
Regarding the examples of visual stereotypes, it might help to make a subtrope of that.
This means Mao does not fit Stereotypes of Chinese People, and is Not An Example, which to be honest I think can be said of most entries in your above two posts that don't relate to visual stereotypes, and possibly the Chinese chef thing which a few people have argued is also a stereotype.