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pvtnum11 OMG NO NOSECONES from Kerbin low orbit Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
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#1: Oct 27th 2010 at 1:50:34 AM

I found this tonight. Fascinating material. Disturbing, even.

Here.

Anyone else come across it? It's a lot to take in, I'll probably have to spend quite a bit of time digesting it.

Happiness is zero-gee with a sinus cold.
silver2195 Since: Jan, 2001
#2: Oct 27th 2010 at 11:29:58 AM

Looks batshit insane, especially in combination with the rest of the site.

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Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
SomeSortOfTroper Since: Jan, 2001
#4: Oct 27th 2010 at 12:05:26 PM

I read the page on the other thread. Sounded sane but strong claims and "cites please or it didn't happen".

Go to the main page: batshit crazy Godwinning banner. So I click on the European Union page.

I expected

  • Conspiracy theory about EU being set up by Illuminati to help create One World Order.

I Got

  • A fairly reasonably written page that seemed to be written with a view on informing as yet unaware citizens of the EU-USA interactions. Still no cites though.

Aprilla Since: Aug, 2010
#5: Oct 27th 2010 at 12:18:30 PM

Many of the arguments on that website are fairly compelling, but the consensus so far seems to be that it gives off the crazy conspiracy theorist vibe. This a problem I have with many social commentators. They may have solid claims afoot, but they advertise themselves in such an anti-establishment "I know the secret truth" persona that they end appearing as caricatures of more rational political theorists.

EricDVH Since: Jan, 2001
#6: Oct 27th 2010 at 2:48:53 PM

I have to admit my eyes rolled in their sockets the moment I laid them on the “FDR & Pearl Harbor” section, but upon reading it, I too was surprised to find a reasonable and well written analysis of the brinkmanship leading up WWII and a gentle debunking of the conspiracy theory I expected.

Eric,

pvtnum11 OMG NO NOSECONES from Kerbin low orbit Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
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#7: Oct 27th 2010 at 3:03:22 PM

Why, what were you expecting to find, if I may ask?

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silver2195 Since: Jan, 2001
#8: Oct 27th 2010 at 5:57:41 PM

He was expecting the standard "FDR had advance knowledge" conspiracy theory.

I think I might have misjudged this site. I had a bit of a knee-jerk reaction to the inflammatory banner and headlines.

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pvtnum11 OMG NO NOSECONES from Kerbin low orbit Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
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#9: Oct 27th 2010 at 6:13:57 PM

^ Oh, yes. I've heard that bit once.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#10: Oct 27th 2010 at 6:28:24 PM

Hell even the name threw me for a bit. I'd appreciate a bit more citations (as mentioned) but it didn't seem to bad.

edited 27th Oct '10 6:28:36 PM by Deboss

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RadicalTaoist scratching at .8, just hopin' from the #GUniverse Since: Jan, 2001
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#11: Oct 29th 2010 at 2:04:05 AM

I hate it when the conspiracy theorists latch themselves onto good history; it makes it harder for the average person to tell the difference. Forget this site. Read A People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn and War Is A Racket by General Smedley Darlington Butler instead

Share it so that people can get into this conversation, 'cause we're not the only ones who think like this.
EricDVH Since: Jan, 2001
#12: Oct 29th 2010 at 4:06:03 AM

It set off all my alarm bells at first, but reading through some of the articles I can't see any particular conspiracy theories. Overall there's a fair amount of stuff I've run across before, but some pretty interesting links that flesh it out, the writing style is definitely a tad on the sensational side though.

Eric,

silver2195 Since: Jan, 2001
#13: Oct 29th 2010 at 7:04:31 AM

Zinn is hardly a good historian.

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pvtnum11 OMG NO NOSECONES from Kerbin low orbit Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
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#14: Nov 1st 2010 at 2:03:49 PM

@ Radical: The site references "War is a Racket", incidentally.

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