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TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#24176: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:41:22 PM

Cell screamed pretty hard when he was dropped to his Semi-Perfect form, but no dimensional shaking happened.

Therefore, we can determine at the very least that ASSJ Level is not enough to rip holes in dimensions by yelling.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#24177: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:43:53 PM

Mind, Super Saiyan 3 Goku and Kid Buu also do their fair share of yelling.

So I think it's specifically Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks/Super Buu and up.

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#24178: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:46:17 PM

It could also be a special technique that does it. I mean, you don't see Superman erasing everything he yells at out of existence, even though that's how he destroyed Darkseid in his true form during Final Crisis.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#24179: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:47:14 PM

I mean, that's a different series. Different rules apply probably.

Like, yeah, I know we're talking about a crossover already, but.

...Also, the first time Super Buu did it he was as surprised as Gotenks and Piccolo, because he did it by accident. So. I think he was just. Yelling. Because he was mad about being stuck there forever.

edited 21st Jan '17 1:48:13 PM by unnoun

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#24180: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:52:50 PM

I'm inclined to call Super Buu the minimum require power for tearing holes in the time-space continuum. Because no one else ever did it before him or Gotenks, and as unnoun pointed out, Super Buu did it by accident. It's not some secret technique he's known forever. He was pissed off, yelled really loud, and a tear in time and space opened.

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#24181: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:53:32 PM

Cell has both Freeza and the Saiyans in his make up, so if he bothered to train he'd end up going Golden SSJ 3 or something.

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#24182: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:57:36 PM

Why's nobody brought up that you could cut through dimensions inside a person and that could kill them instantly?

Automatic body hole...that also leads to another dimension.

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#24184: Jan 21st 2017 at 1:59:59 PM

Yeah, and the amount of characters who can regenerate can be counted on your hands; they're not the norm in the universe.

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#24185: Jan 21st 2017 at 2:22:03 PM

Alucard has no way of hurting Cell.

Why can't Alucard hurt Cell?

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#24186: Jan 21st 2017 at 2:36:05 PM

That dog of his is probably pretty strong.

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#24187: Jan 21st 2017 at 2:37:09 PM

The discussion about Cell-Alucard makes me wonder if the Evil Containment Wave would be able to trap Alucard. (There's a reasonable argument that Cell should know that technique because of Dr. Gero's spying on the Z-Warriors, but has never faced an opponent where it made sense to use it.)

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#24188: Jan 21st 2017 at 2:44:56 PM

I almost bought a Cell Pop Figure today, I would have recorded myself badly trying to do the Perfect Cell impression.

I do like the Alucard-Cell.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#24189: Jan 21st 2017 at 3:30:50 PM

Okay, so Alucard says he had 3,424,867 souls. Times 5 is 17,124,335. So, not Frieza, but still well into planet buster if he knew any ki attacks.

Problem is I'm not sure all of those souls would have been 5. Like. Van Hellsing's friends/partners/allies would probably have been Anderson/Hercule/Roshi level? Ish? And yeah I know those are three different levels, but.

Then there's the fact that he ate a few of the Nazi vampires.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#24190: Jan 21st 2017 at 3:41:31 PM

It gets more complicated when by the end of Hellsing the implication is that Alucard just can't get be killed at all now.

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#24192: Jan 21st 2017 at 3:56:06 PM

Could Beerus kill Garlic Jr?

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#24193: Jan 21st 2017 at 4:04:24 PM

...

That's a good question.

Throw Zamasu (Immortal version) on that list as well.

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#24195: Jan 21st 2017 at 4:18:44 PM

Now I want to see a fight between Alucard and Black Sperm from One Punch Man.

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#24196: Jan 21st 2017 at 5:02:46 PM

That Yusuke thing has me wondering about the intersection between Dragonballz's and Yuyuhakusho's afterlives.

Like, is the dude Goku met at the sorting desk when he died Koenma's dad?

edited 21st Jan '17 5:03:03 PM by Enlong

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#24197: Jan 21st 2017 at 5:04:36 PM

Let's hope not, since manga-wise Lord Enma was the one behind all the demon attacks up to at least Rando, in order to better the reputation of the organization that Yusuke became a part of.

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#24198: Jan 21st 2017 at 5:05:27 PM

Might want to mention that that's in reference to the last arc of Yu Yu Hakusho.

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#24199: Jan 21st 2017 at 5:31:48 PM

I'll also add that Kuwabara is basically the Yamcha of YYH in terms of how many fans go out of their way to come up with reasons why he's way more awesome than folks give him credit for. Unlike Yamcha, however, YYH actually does give Kuwabara some pretty cool moments. He pulls his weight.

But he's still the least formidable protagonist and the Dimension Sword does nothing to change that. All it accomplished was extending his relevancy for one last arc by giving him arbitrary plot-importance.

Another important difference is that Kuwabara's role shares elements of Kuririn and Vegeta, he's not so much the Yamcha in the story (he just has a similar fan reaction). He's the primary Worf of the team, which is actually why he gets to have some cool moments - you gotta build your Worf back up so it'll have meaning when they lose to the next guy. Yamcha also worfs, but other characters fulfill that role better and he gets phased out of it soon enough.

edited 21st Jan '17 5:31:54 PM by Saiga

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#24200: Jan 21st 2017 at 5:33:10 PM

Yamcha also doesn't have a single win to his name as well, barring the martial artists in all the preliminary rounds of the tournaments he's in.

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