OnLive the fture of gaming?

http://www.onlive.com/

Personally I say yes, but it really isn't getting any hype in the mainstream media, but it comes out early June, and it's a counsel that fits in your pocket works, on Pc's and Tv's, has no disks, I'd say it's a done deal what do you guys think?

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Title spelling fail.

Also, On Live, future of gaming? I say no, or at least, not yet. Too many problems get in the way of it actually be feasible. For starters, the internet. Connections aren't up to the standard they would have to be in order to get a smooth stream without lag, and then you have bandwidth caps. These days, it's piss easy to burn through a smaller cap, I can attest to. Until unlimited cap internet deals are widely available, and connections improve a LOT, On Live just isn't really feasible right now.

Besides, none of the major hardware makers will bother putting any of their exclusives on On Live, and even if such a system became feasible, I imagine such features would be intergrated into the typical console, allowing both physical media, downloadable content and an On Live-like service available for consumers to choose.

edited 30th May '10 1:18:43 AM by Cronosonic

They market themselves as lag-less using live video instead of traditional game feed, Plus it could easily Kill off Game-Fly within the first few years.

[[User Banned]]_ My Pm box ix still open though, I think?

They can market themselves how they wish  ^*

, but that doesn't make it fact. Like Mark Twain said (if paraphrased by me), calling a dog's tail a leg don't make it so.

Or, in simpler words, I call bullshit.

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In my experience, whenever anyone tries to market something as "The X Of The Future" or "The Future Of X", they are completely and utterly full of bullshit.

EDIT: Oh wow, do we really not have either of those?

edited 30th May '10 10:14:06 AM by Reflextion

There's still an significant audience (like myself) who rather have the real cartridge in our systems - hard copies are an essential part of gaming.

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Reflextion, yeah, that surprised me, too. I'm almost tempted to hit YKTTW and propose something to that effect, but I'm drawing blanks on any specific examples, other than this thread's title.

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It does seem like a natural progression from downloaded games. But it makes me feel uneasy. It just furthers the idea(well, fact) that the customer doesn't "own" the game that s/he paid for. I don't think I want to spend $60 on a monthly rental.

edited 30th May '10 5:08:37 PM by Beforet

From what I heard this streaming tech could bypass the need to upgrade hardware from the client end. This also scares me as well, you could have to pay a premium to even play the last games at all.

It's a $15 a month rental and that includes everything.

Also the whole future of gaming bullshit thing.

The Wii was said to be gaming's future, everyone laughed it and mocked it, it's currently number one in sales and has both the PS 3 and X Box 360 playing Follow the Leader.

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The Wii is one data point. With the sheer number of things that are called the future of gaming, something had to eventually intersect with the actual future of gaming. Doesn't make those predictions any more accurate.

You'd need less than 100 msec round-trip lag at all times for this to be workable for action-y games. I'm not holding my breath.

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Hmm... well, On Live is a great idea, but as has been said, the bandwith and connection speed issues might bring down the end result...

Also, On Live spelled backwards is Evil No, and the controller buttons spell out Evil. Conspiracy?

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Before, I thought such a thing could conceivably work. Then Ubisofts DRM pointed out how constant online connection works.

The thing is that the Wii is the system that relies the least on the internet. Yes, it's there, but it's not as important for the Wii as it is with the PC, 360 or PS3. The DS relies even less on the internet and it's kicking the Wii's butt even.

In fact, the games that have sold the best on Wii are either games that would not have worked as downloads due to needing accessories or the throwback to the SNES era on disk that is New Super Mario Bros Wii!

edited 30th May '10 9:51:36 PM by GameGuruGG

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Even good connections hiccup. I'd be pretty annoyed if I was dying to lag spikes in a single player game.

The whole things relies on the internet being perfect. I'd rather they spend their time developing that side of things instead of the hypothetical things we might be able to do after that happens.

Great idea, bad timing.

Maybe when faster Internet connections are more widespread, we'll all be able to play Crysis on our netbooks.

Doesn't this strike anyone as the slightest bit, well, ominous?

Eric,

^ What, the Evil No, or just the possible movement to downloads?

"The world ends with you. If you want to enjoy life, expand your world. You gotta push your horizons out as far as they'll go."

That site can die in a fire. I'm not far from being completely turned off by modern video games, but that would go a long way toward shoving me off the slope once and for all.

Cynics are optimists that have become used to disappointment.

More the movement to a completely closed system lock-in, one that could render 3rd-party development impossible. Imagine if this took over the PC and mobile spaces as well, the prosumer and independent developer could go extinct for lack of hardware.

Eric,

Hence why streaming tech scares me. Here's an article about streaming World Of Warcraft on the Ipad.

Eh, no thanks, it sounds horrible.

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Eric: I'm not quite sure I understand. The Onlive service still requires games created, they will simply be sold through the service. The proper payments will be made to the games creators, much the same as, say, people with movies on Netflix still recieve royalties (I assume they do), and the level of entry should remain roughly the same as developing for any concole or PC. While they'd still have to get approval in order to be featured on the service, well, don't comapnies already have to do that, both to find a publisher and to put their game on a console?

The console companies have only been kept honest by the looming specter of the PC industry. In no small part because of PC gaming, it's possible since the '70s to buy a workstation and software suite for about $1k-$5k that lets random bums in their bedroom make things that stand toe-to-toe with professionals. Game devkits are hardly the only thing of this sort. Imagine if common users had been unable to run emerging genres of software (desktop publishing, web access, video editing, media jukebox…) because they only had dumb terminals, or worse, if nobody had been able to program them in the first place (oh, also kiss open source goodbye, for whatever that's worth.) It could set the computer industry and everything dependent on it back to the 1960s mainframe era.

Eric,

That requires that all computers would be erased by this. Its not Skynet, its just a streaming service for games.