That was a really awesome episode, though, with the guest stars.
What I want to know is, where the hell is John Winchester? We already know that he escaped from Hell at the end of the second season. They'd better revisit that before the last episode.
"The secret we should never let the gamemasters know is that they don't need any rules." - E. Gary Gygax
Now, he's here
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But seriously, I don't know. Maybe he's just scattered life energy...
edited 9th Apr '10 12:48:40 PM by Keybreak
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I always assumed that Johnny boy moved on to heaven or something, not that he deserved it....
How many times have you been knocked out, anyway? I swear, one of these times, you're gonna wake up in a coma. - Cordelia Chase
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it really has been a while between posts LURK MOAR, guys.
Guys, the man tried. And it's not like all the father figures were all that great in this series, what with the demons and all. I think there would be more appearances from John if they could get Jeffrey Dean Morgan.
edited 19th Apr '10 9:44:56 PM by wanderlustwarrior
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So, if Adam, the 3rd Winchester survives the story, I'm thinking he may be the analogue to Seth. Man, I wish that his mother's last name was Summers.
The DVD case for the season may confirm my theory about how the season ends. notice the ring on the ground?
I've noticed the mentality for Point of no Return and some recent episodes seems to be: 'Don't believe in yourself, believe in me that believes in you!'
edited 20th Apr '10 9:10:32 PM by wanderlustwarrior
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Now Wanderlust Warrior, this may be unsolicited, but I think you may be a handsome, intelligent bachelor (and likely Sex God) who's favorite TV show could use some more hits.
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Why thank you! And Chad, I'm fairly certain the only reason you've ever lost any fight is because you're holding back your power to keep from ending the planet.
If only we had anyone else active on this thread. Then we could talk about how awesome they are for being supernatural fans, too.
SO, it seems from this (April 22nd) episode that Lucifer isn't unflappable, and one of the series' best characters just died.
edited 22nd Apr '10 6:50:33 PM by wanderlustwarrior
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Oh crap, I forgot to watch it last night, I was watching Jennifers Body with my lady.
It's okay, I'll catch it online.
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If that news of a sixth season is right, I'm honestly a bit disappointed. Not that I don't like the show, but c'mon, they're dealing with Satan this season! How can you possibly top that!? Unless season six is going to be a bunch of filler...
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it says they'd be mending their relationship. yeah, I'm not looking forward to season 6 either.
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For the emprah!
Meh, they're generally good. They'll probably be able to pull off a sixth season without being TOO unnatural about it.
Although that last episode was worryingly bad, I gotta say. I mean, come on, wiping out several pantheons worth of gods in one go? Bullshit.
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It is kind of disheartening to see how comparatively weak non Abrahamic gods are.
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I use to watch Supernatural back in Season 1. Then I was unable to catch new episodes and sort of drifted away from the show, I have been following the basic story so far and I have to say: The show has gotten weird.
Ahem, I'd like to point out that the boys have been able to kill pagan gods before (remember the Christmas episode with the wreaths and the yuletide pagan gods that got stuck in the 1950s? Paris Hilton?), and Lucy is orders of magnitude more powerful then them on their best day (he could kill them basically at will if he cared to).
The show has explained very carefully that the pagan gods are weak now because they have very few worshippers anymore. They scrounge by on trickery or media exposure. Lucifer even notes that they ceded their power (and the effect of their corresponding creation stories) to the monothesists along with their worshippers. Gods Need Prayer Badly, after all.
This is fairly standard; a similar framework was used in American Gods by Neil Gaiman.
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I remember that they'd fought some before, but those were lower level pagan gods. S Ome of the ones in the most recent ep are of a higher caliber.
And yes, comparatively, the 3 abrahamic religions combined have more followers than any other religion, but you've gotta do the math consistently and not completely disenfranchise non-judeochristians. for example
- Hinduism is about 1/3 to 1/4 as followed as Abrahamic religions combined
- not all abrahamic subscribers, or subscribers of any religion believe their whole text
- I've taken care to distinguish "abrahamic" from "judeochristian", which apparently the show does not. If Muslims don't count, then say goodbye to those 1.5 billion subscribers.
A good episode overall, even if I would have liked the pagan gods to at least put a correct fight again Lulu. I can understand why some see Unfortunate Implications here, even if I don't agree.
Although it kinda makes sense if we go by the Gods Need Prayer Badly logic. Even if hinduism is still one of the largest religion in the world (1 billion), it's just half Christianity (2 millions). And as I've read somewhere, in the show Lucifer has the background from the Muslim point of view (he refused to bow down before Man), so we may add to that the 1.5 billion of Islam.
^Argh. I need do learn to write faster.
edited 26th Apr '10 1:18:14 PM by Nithael
The god of Islam is the god of Judeo-Christian mythology, no matter what the zealots on either side say. The Jews and Christians came before the Muslims, and saying "Judeo-Christian-Muslim" is unwieldy.
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Which is why it's supposed to be shortened to "Abrahamic". Jews, Christians and Muslims are all children of Abraham, and as far as I'm aware, that's the P.C. term for the group. Using "Judeo-Christian" is more commonly used (as far as I'm aware) as a political term to describe beliefs held by Jews and Christians, and not necessarily Muslims.
Were they to have been as correct as possible, they should've included Muslims.
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edited 26th Apr '10 3:51:59 PM by GethKnight
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The god of Islam is the god of Judeo-Christian mythology, no matter what the zealots on either side say. Alternative Character Interpretation
edited 26th Apr '10 8:07:56 PM by wellinever
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double post.
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"This time next Thursday", huh?
42 minutes in, but I'm calling it on Bobby: since the deal is cancelled, he'll lose his ability to walk after they plant the explosives, and that's how he dies.
- Holy crap I've never felt so good to be wrong. I think that whole pizza thing might have been an effort on Crowley's part to say he wanted to go to the right place, they went to the wrong one, so the deal was voided. So, that was him being nice.
I sure hope the season's budget was spent on the next episode.
edited 6th May '10 6:59:44 PM by wanderlustwarrior
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So, thoughts?
I thought it was...underwhelming, to be honest. Yeah, Sam and Dean win, but I was hoping for some sort of huge battle sequence or something. Not exactly sure why.
Now to...wait for Season 6, I guess.
Wow, didn't realize it had been this long since the last post in the topic.
So, you know, I was expecting kind of a lighthearted filler episode last night, it being April Fool's Day and all, and with the show not being afraid to give you humorous moments despite its overall tone (The convention episode; the 50s sitcom part of the "play your role" episode).
Yeah, looks like the joke was on me. Well played, Supernatural, well played.