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Solstace Hexachordal Combinatorial from the Second Viennese School Since: Dec, 1969
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#151: Apr 9th 2010 at 8:30:49 PM

Yeah, I thought it was probably misleading by the cover of the game. Also, I have discovered the world of freeware doujin games.

I highly recommend The World To Reverse and Forty Days And Forty Nights Of Rain. Both are short and free.

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#152: Apr 11th 2010 at 10:14:39 AM

Clannad was actually my first VN I think. Other than Pheonix Wright which kinda, kinda doesn't count. I didn't get to finishing it though until after FSN.

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#153: Apr 11th 2010 at 10:24:17 AM

This should really be in the Video Games forum.

You can't even write racist abuse in excrement on somebody's car without the politically correct brigade jumping down your throat!
Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
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#154: Apr 11th 2010 at 10:25:58 AM

Eh. I think that it fits the tone of this board better.

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Superior Since: Sep, 2009
#155: Apr 16th 2010 at 8:26:02 AM

I guess, that's probably a problem with the whole idea of Plot With Porn .

For most people, characters of a mainstream story appearing in a pornographic scene is just OOC, no matter what. If the same scenes would be only implied, it would be believable that they happened, especially the second one in Fate, but most people don't actually want to SEE likeable, deep, realistic human characters having a threesome, talking dirty, or getting a faceful.

Kinda similar to when people complain that Rule 34 "ruined their childhood". These scenes just hurt the illusion.

BTW, will there be any similar scenes in the other two routes? And with which characters?

My theory turned out to be right. I'm at the second route, and the fact that this time at least they don't act like porn stars, made it A LOT less weird.

Which work should I try from Key first? I watched the CLANNAD anime a few weeks ago, ad loved it, but wouldn't the same story be boring for a second time?

edited 16th Apr '10 8:29:28 AM by Superior

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Noimporta Since: Jan, 2001
#156: Apr 16th 2010 at 8:28:24 AM

and the fact that this time at least they don't act like porn stars, made it insanely less weird.

This. The second scene in the first route was cringeworthy because of this No, Saber, you've been wearing Iron-clad panties during all of your life, you most definitely do not "Know how to please a man"

edited 16th Apr '10 8:28:38 AM by Noimporta

Mapi "keionbu ni yokusou, nyan?" from Sakurakou Keionbu Since: Aug, 2011
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#157: Apr 16th 2010 at 8:30:27 AM

^^ Clannad VN isn't exactly like the anime. You get a lot of stuff that's different. Give it a shot, but I must warn you; it's longer than Fate Stay Night.

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Arilou Taller than Zim from Quasispace Since: Jan, 2001
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#158: Apr 16th 2010 at 8:31:48 AM

I should probably note that my first VN's were Dating Sims from Jast back in the day. I believe Season Of The Sakura was the first I finished?

edited 16th Apr '10 8:31:58 AM by Arilou

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TheAdversary Since: Jan, 2001
#159: Apr 16th 2010 at 9:39:05 AM

^^^Saber is, number one, just a teenager; number two, a teenager that lived as the opposite sex and number three she lived in the middle ages. Not knowing that the pOnOs goes into the vagOOO is perfectly in-character. But I do agree the ero scene in UBW rules because of how awkward both parties are.

Also, the best piece of music in FSN is this.

edited 16th Apr '10 9:41:12 AM by TheAdversary

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#160: Apr 16th 2010 at 10:12:07 AM

^ Emiya

@ Superior Make sure you watched After Story as well.

Mapi "keionbu ni yokusou, nyan?" from Sakurakou Keionbu Since: Aug, 2011
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#161: Apr 16th 2010 at 10:18:28 AM

Emiya rocks. Studio DEEN fucked up by not using it in the anime.

Well then again, Studio DEEN has screwed up quite a few things. Like Alliance of the Golden Witch.

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Solstace Hexachordal Combinatorial from the Second Viennese School Since: Dec, 1969
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#162: Apr 16th 2010 at 12:02:55 PM

Gonna pimp Chaos;Head whilst I'm here. The game is soooooooooooo much better than the anime it's not even funny.

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#163: Apr 16th 2010 at 12:10:38 PM

I liked Chaos Head for pretty much the same reason I like Fate Stay Night, which is that being inside the head of a crazy guy is pretty interesting. Neither of them are at all relateable in a normal sense but all their actions make sense within their own contexts.

Saya No Uta is kind like that too.

edited 16th Apr '10 12:10:52 PM by Clarste

Noimporta Since: Jan, 2001
#164: Apr 16th 2010 at 12:15:16 PM

Not knowing that the pOnOs goes into the vagOOO is perfectly in-character. But I do agree the ero scene in UBW rules because of how awkward both parties are.

No, you misunderstand, the problem with that scene is that it is the exact opposite of what you'd expect of a crossdressing teenager from the middle ages, her dialogue and actions show much more experience that she could possibly have.

Solstace Hexachordal Combinatorial from the Second Viennese School Since: Dec, 1969
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#165: Apr 16th 2010 at 12:17:28 PM

Yeah, it's definitely a story where you miss loads without the inner narrative.

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Arilou Taller than Zim from Quasispace Since: Jan, 2001
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#166: Apr 16th 2010 at 12:19:25 PM

Dude, people in the middle-ages were pretty open about sex. Seriously. don't project victorian values back in time :p

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#167: Apr 16th 2010 at 12:20:13 PM

She does have a son. Apparently, Merlin gave her a temporary penis at some point and she impregnated her wife. Also, she's only physically a teenage girl, she's lived a lot longer than that. Pulling the sword from the stone stopped her aging.

Honestly I don't even remember the scenes in question because I kind of skimmed over them on future playthroughs, so I can't say for sure how accurate to the backstory they are, but there is a reason for her not to be completely naive.

edited 16th Apr '10 12:21:11 PM by Clarste

Superior Since: Sep, 2009
#168: Apr 16th 2010 at 1:00:38 PM

Dude, people in the middle-ages were pretty open about sex. Seriously. don't project victorian values back in time :p
This is not the historical middle age we are talking about, but the mythical age of Camelot. You know, with chivalry, and stuff. She was also specifically stated to be a virgin multiple times.

edited 16th Apr '10 1:01:55 PM by Superior

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Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
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#169: Apr 16th 2010 at 3:21:26 PM

I like almost any story with an insane protagonist. I will be getting Chaos Head soon for that reason. wheeeee

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#171: Apr 20th 2010 at 8:47:08 PM

Da Capo: In two days, I have gone through Kotori, Moe, and Mako's routes. I have four routes left.

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#172: Apr 20th 2010 at 9:46:19 PM

Oh wow, nice. I need to catch up on my V Ns. I've been focusing more on my anime and Starcraft lately. So hard to find a balance.

EnglishIvy Since: Aug, 2011
#173: Apr 20th 2010 at 10:00:02 PM

I picked up Saya No Uta again, and finished it. They killed Dr. Tanbo!

zeroplusalpha The World Is Mine from behind the 7th Door Since: Apr, 2009
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#174: Apr 21st 2010 at 1:10:03 AM

No, you misunderstand, the problem with that scene is that it is the exact opposite of what you'd expect of a crossdressing teenager from the middle ages, her dialogue and actions show much more experience that she could possibly have.

Maybe not actual experience, but don't forget she hung out with a load of hardcore soldiers. I'd be very surprised if she didn't at least know about what goes on in the bedroom, even if she hasn't experienced them herself.

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Solstace Hexachordal Combinatorial from the Second Viennese School Since: Dec, 1969
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#175: Apr 21st 2010 at 6:43:28 AM

Saya No Uta is short. I think the loli rape makes it seem longer.

I'm almost done with Sharin No Kuni. Can someone recommend me something after?

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