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#1076: Sep 12th 2016 at 9:31:46 AM

Parts of the croc book might be usable. Such as the team trying to prevent a celebrity from endorsing the Sharing.

I was thinking that the David storyline might be something that could be stretched over half a season. After he breaks from the team have him disappear for a few E Ps and make his little homicide spree into a season finale.

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#1077: Sep 12th 2016 at 9:45:35 AM

Also, remember the time Ax killed a T-Rex??!

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#1078: Sep 12th 2016 at 2:23:16 PM

Wait what?

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#1079: Sep 12th 2016 at 3:56:49 PM

[up][up]One of the biggest reasons to keep Megamorphs 2.

[up][up][up]Well, if I'm doing 10-13 episode seasons, than the David arc being six episodes would be exactly half.

edited 12th Sep '16 3:57:20 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

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#1080: Sep 12th 2016 at 4:50:00 PM

[up][up] In Megamorphs two, they got blasted back to the cretacious. And Ax killed the fuck out of a T-Rex.

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#1082: Sep 12th 2016 at 7:04:16 PM

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#1083: Sep 13th 2016 at 7:30:21 AM

Some of the so-called filler books have some great plots. What makes the crocodile book filler, but not the helmacrons books?

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#1084: Sep 13th 2016 at 7:58:43 AM

The halmacron books are totally filler what are you taking about

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#1085: Sep 13th 2016 at 8:00:40 AM

I mean they weren't on the aforementioned list of filler books. If we're being real, you would have to chop more than half the series if you wanted to get rid of all the filler.

edited 13th Sep '16 8:00:59 AM by ElementX

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#1086: Sep 13th 2016 at 11:10:12 AM

The Helmacrons have a stronger claim to filler than the crocodile. The crocodile plot revolved primarily around a Yeerk recruitment effort built on celebrity publicity. It's the kind of story that isn't necessarily vital but does show an interesting battlefield for the Animorphs and Yeerks to come to blows around. And it also establishes an interesting side effect of the morphing process along the way.

While it does have no lasting impact, it's still an episodic adventure in the ongoing conflict between the protagonists and antagonists. The Helmacron stories, on the other hand, were just about a weird new alien species showing up right out of nowhere to wrestle with the Animorphs a couple times before f*cking off because they have nothing to do with this story.

The crocodile issue is the kind of story one might reasonably see in an episodic series, while the Helmacrons are the kind of story one might expect from the episodes of an anime that the animators made while waiting for the manga to give them some more plot to work with. Entirely self-contained adventures that have nothing to do with anything and just serve to let the characters f*ck around for a couple episodes without any lasting consequences that might mess up the canon.

edited 13th Sep '16 11:12:35 AM by TobiasDrake

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#1087: Sep 13th 2016 at 5:01:36 PM

I forgot about the helmacrons

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#1089: Sep 13th 2016 at 5:58:01 PM

Those were the murder-Dolphins, right?

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#1090: Sep 13th 2016 at 6:06:40 PM

The Helmacrons were the ant-sized fungeable blue bastards with egos the size of the moon.

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#1091: Sep 13th 2016 at 6:12:26 PM

The murder-dolphins were the Howlers, I think?

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#1092: Sep 13th 2016 at 6:22:03 PM

The Howlers were bipedal, with lava-looking skin, huge blue eyes, and tons of brutal weapons, including a sonic scream. They were also Crayak's personal murder-species.

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#1093: Sep 13th 2016 at 8:10:20 PM

Oh yeah, you should also cut out the murder dolphin book. It added nothing, came the fuck out of nowhere, and was never mentioned again- the three elements of a BLAM.

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#1094: Sep 13th 2016 at 8:53:03 PM

I honestly have no clue what you guys are even talking about.

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#1095: Sep 13th 2016 at 9:00:11 PM

Oh, right, the Helmacrons sucked.

I called them murder-dolphins because once the Animorphs morphed into Howlers, we learned that they were basically childlike and innocent creatures who thought that they were just playing games and didn't realize what they were doing or the severity of their actions. Cassie described them as having a mind like a dolphin.

However, once Jake morphed into one of them and became part of the hivemind, the other Howlers were exposed to his memories and emotions and began to understand right and wrong.

So then Krayak wiped out the entire species because they were no longer superweapons.

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#1096: Sep 13th 2016 at 9:16:57 PM

Well, if you cut out every book that ends up not having that much impact on the overall series, you'd be cutting out half of them. That's just kind of the episodic nature of it. The Howler book, for example, does give us more information on the ongoing conflict between Crayak and the Ellimist. And on Erek.

Actually, didn't Erek do some kinda shady things in that book? Possibly foreshadowing/laying some groundwork for how he basically turns on Jake in the final book?

The only one I can think of that I'd really like to cut would be the one where they go to Atlantis and discover a random bunch of nonhumans who have been on earth all along for some reason. And that's more because I personally find it dumb than because it's 'filler'.

edited 13th Sep '16 9:47:10 PM by LoniJay

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#1097: Sep 13th 2016 at 9:26:57 PM

I think the Atlantis book has some interesting and salvageble ideas and concepts, but the execution could use a little bit of tinkering.

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#1098: Sep 14th 2016 at 10:09:48 AM

I'd say more than a little tinkering.

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#1099: Sep 14th 2016 at 11:01:07 AM

Book 36 was one of the first I ever read and I remember close to nothing about aside from the fact that they morphed orcas and somewhow discovered atlantis.

The worst filler book imo has to be the Australian one. Cassie definitely got the brunt of the more terrible plots.

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#1100: Sep 14th 2016 at 2:47:59 PM

Honestly, I never read that one. I guess I'm obligated to, at some point in the future. I'm dreading that day, from what I've heard of it.


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