Who Am I?
So who figures out what's going on? Obviously one of them does.
"We learn from history that we do not learn from history."
Seeing as Complains's simulacrum is the one that says... something during the first loop, I think it's him.
And I bet they all just stand and point because that was what they saw the temporal/demonic copies do.
edited 27th May '16 2:16:23 PM by SalFishFin
That, and because one wouldn't want to kill their past selves?
(Even putting time paradoxes aside, killing your past self just doesn't seem to be a smart thing to do.)
So that's what this does
Is Minmax triggering ... whatever it is?
First time was him drawing his sword, this time it's after he threatens Names...
Do you think that when they discover what's going on, the time will revert to that of before the battle?
The universe is under no obligation to make sense to us.
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I think that a perfectly valid stable time loop would be for them to realise what's going on and then point their past selves to the exit, exactly as they saw their future selves do a few minutes earlier (and then they carry on afterwards with no more time shenanigans). On the bright side, that ensures that we already know no one suffers any major injury at the moment (except for maybe Complains' leg I suppose). On the downside, that means the demon-axe problem is set in stone...
edited 30th May '16 9:57:47 PM by ashnazg
So that's what this does
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edited 5th Jun '16 4:22:49 PM by TotemicHero
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Pretentious Git
Well funny how by Ears' opinion on morality, Kore is totally evil.
I was going to ask who attacked first. But whatever the answer, it was them. Clever.
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Hmmm, nope, not buying it. It was a very wilful deception that was impossible to see through in the moments between spotting their enemies and being charged at.
Attacking someone from behind is also not necessarily evil. It's good tactics. An axe to the face will kill someone just as dead as to the spine. Before battle starts, please do announce yourselves and give them a chance to surrender if you want to be the Good Guy, but once initiative has been rolled, there's nothing left other than to fight to win, especially if the opponent is such an overwhelming force.
Considering the kind of shit Saral Caine must've gotten up to, this would probably be one of the many, many points the players would openly revolt against the DM.
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I'm getting serious Honor Before Reason vibes from Ears here.
edited 20th Jun '16 6:07:01 AM by Willbyr
Lost in Space
Ears is struggling with the classic Paladin dilemma wherein you're essentially subject to the whim of the unknowably malevolent gods with respect to what might be considered Good vs. Evil acts.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
And, given the early strips establish that they really are at the whim of a capricious GM...
Who Am I?
His sin isnt that he attacked Kore from behind, it's that he didn't hesitate before doing so. He felt no reluctance, therefore the act was evil.
"We learn from history that we do not learn from history."
Lost in Space
Which is ridiculous given that Kore has been established already as uncompromisingly Evil.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
He has flashback panels showing reluctance right there.
Who Am I?
The opponent being evil is irrelevant. You are good or evil based entirely on your own internal feelings regarding doing harm or giving support. It's 100% Virtue-based ethics, rules and outcomes don't matter.
That said, we dont know if Ears assessment of himself is accurate. He could be too harsh on himself. But if so, what broke the axe?
"We learn from history that we do not learn from history."
This is a title.
Perhaps it's an illusion. Ears thinks the axe was broken, so has to confront the classic To Be Lawful or Good dilemma to prove himself worthy of being a paladin...or something. Secret Test of Character or some such.
You fell victim to one of the classic blunders!
First, Ears was reluctant to attack Kore from behind. Complains persuaded him. Second, they were already in combat with him, and it was pretty clear by then that Kore cannot be negotiated with. There was absolutely nothing evil about anything Ears did in that battle.
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The thing it that attacking from behind is against his personal code. Not that attacking from behind is evil. Breaking his personal code is the problematic act.
Minmax and Complains speak of "Inverted knees", however these don't look like knees to me, but like good ol' animal legs (the "knees" actually being the ankle). Especially as the actual knees can be seen.
"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."