This is the thread we use to talk things over with people who have received a suspension notice. A lot of the time the notice goes out just so we can explain how seriously we take certain things, not because we want the person to feel bad and go away.
If you're suspended, give What to Do If You Are Suspended a read, then post here to begin your appeal. We try to respond to appeals in order via batch posts every few days. If a moderator has responded to your appeal, you will receive a notification in your private messages, even if you're suspended from PMs.
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Don'ts
- Don't be rude. Rule 1 applies here, too.
- Don't try to negotiate your suspension outside of this thread, such as by sending Private Messages to moderators or posting elsewhere. Such activity may be thumped or otherwise removed, and may warrant an additional suspension block if it keeps happening. All communications have to take place within this thread.
- Don't respond to other suspended users. This is a place for you to discuss your suspension, not others'.
- Don't post multiple times about your appeal if it hasn't been a few days since your last reply from us, since it makes it more difficult to compose responses. If you've posted, we're likely looking at it, and kindly request you to be more patient.
- Don't make another account to try and get around your suspension. This is called ban evasion and will get you bounced. (Again, read What to Do If You Are Suspended if you don't know what these words mean.)
Edited by Synchronicity on Jul 15th 2023 at 11:35:01 AM
Alright. I wish someone had just told me that. I thought it was just some other troper taking down my stuff because they thought I was wrong. That was what I objected to not anything about what you said.
Yes,I looked into this part of the website and said that I would post my edits inside if they were beginning to be convoluted,complicated or long , or if I wasn't sure about the quality of my English. Unless you don't think I'm able to detect when what I write doesn't feel right ,(My english level by European standart is B1 and the automatic translator I will use is Deep L,I have successfully translate this post into correct french thank to him ), in that case I will always made verify my text in Get Help With English before actually modifying a page.
Lost in Space
~Ea4g: Edit warring is incorrect behavior, full stop, regardless of other circumstances. If you wanted to know why the example was removed, check the article history. This is basic courtesy.
~Phil2as: Just looking at that post shows me you aren't able to meet our requirements. Using translation software is never going to have ideal results.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Fair enough. What can I do to remedy this?
Lost in Space
~Ea4g: I'll release your suspension. Keep in mind that you need to discuss contested edits and we won't have to go through this again.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Fair enough. I'll keep a cool head. How can I amend?
My PM box has been turned off, I can't read the latest message, can I get it back in case it's an important admin message? (and it likely is)
edited 23rd May '18 7:11:56 AM by Saveelich
How sweet it is
Okay then. Let's hope so.
Lifting suspension. And yes, the PM was likely a notifier.
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope Report
Yeah, sorry. I'll do better next time.
I made some grammatical mistakes and will endeavor to fix them but could allow me to make edits again please?
Big Shadow was here
Me as a Merman
My editing privilege has been suspended and I don't understand why. Can I get an explanation as to why?
BTW, please call me Jake.
Hello!
Before I start I should mention that I tried to appeal my case via e-mail, but got no response.
Then I realized that my ban wasn't permanent after all, so I will try to appeal here.
Can I do that, or should I keep waiting for a response via e-mail?
I think I have a message in my Inbox about my ban, but can't access it becausev of said ban. Could the staff tell me what is says?
Me as a Merman
I think I got banned for re-adding the BLAM moment in the YMMV page for Blazblue Cross Tag Battle in which you guys must have thought I was starting an Edit War. Looking back at it now, I should have brought it to discussion before I re-added that example. I am deeply sorry for what I have done. I promise you this won't happen again.
edited 24th May '18 11:27:50 AM by MummyGaGa
BTW, please call me Jake.
Lost in Space
~Kelothan: I hope so, because if it happens again, we won't be lenient. I've released your suspension.
~Big Shadow: This isn't about grammar, although if you have concerns about that, I'd advise you to work on improving. Rather, you violated Example Indentation rules repeatedly despite notifications.
If there is more than one example for a trope, they all go at the same level of indentation.
Wrong:
- Trope: Example
- Example
Right:
- Trope:
- Example
- Example
Never add comments, explanations, justifications, clarifications, or anything else as an additional bullet below an example.
~Mummy Ga Ga: You were engaged in an Edit War on YMMV.Blaz Blue Cross Tag Battle regarding an example of Big-Lipped Alligator Moment. Don't use the wiki to conduct arguments. If there's a dispute over an example, you are required to discuss it before making any further edits.
I see that you've apologized, which is good. Please take this warning to heart in the future. I'll release your suspension.
~Aladdin99: All I can say is that your ban was intended to be permanent. I'm not going to go back and revisit that decision.
edited 25th May '18 6:56:35 AM by Fighteer
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/BrokenBow
Recently I found myself edit locked because I was disputing the inclusion of the following.
"My Real Daddy: Despite being an OC from a relatively obscure fanfic, Armani is a popular and established character in the cooominity of the long-running role-playing series A Gameof Gods. Players are more familiar and attached to the version played by troper Tv Tropes Noob than Xed Alpha’s version."
The editor, Fallen Legend, continued adding this despite this not being a case of being my real daddy. My real Daddy is a trope for a defining retake on a character.
For example Chris Claremont revamping the X-Men, Carl Barks creating the characterization of the Ducks and the idea of continuity at all, and a specific writer of a T.V show, such as Atsuhiro Tomioka for May in Pokemon.
Saying that a single forum, one that isn't particularly big, one that doesn't even have tropes written about the character, is a real daddy is simply absurd. Saying that Rule 34 is the real daddy of a character makes more sense than that.
The edit additionally did not explain what qualified it for being that trope beyond 'being seen by more people', something that makes me wonder why the Bay films aren't Optimus Prime's daddy under that definition. It's not something that can be proved either. It did not give an example of a defining characterization addition, or storyline, or anything giving the argument any sort of grounds.
He argued that it 'was more familiar to the role players' while not explaining why that argument does not extent to examples like teh above Bayformers comment, or how that doesn't make everything the real daddy of a character (Like Ultimate Spiderman TV for Spiderman, The Batman for Batman, or other examples that are not declared that trope)
It's YMMV sure, but you are allowed to edit when people put up things that aren't true. Like calling a divisive character a scrappy when it has fans.
The entire edit war came about because Fallen Legend would not explain himself, fix the edit, or offer any expansion that would have suited things. Had he simply offered to create an edit that said, for example, 'Armani Dove is M.R.D'd by this forum because it gave him the well recieved storyline Silver Cry, gave him a good dynamic with X and Y, and gave him the famous battle with the Obsidian King' I'd have been fine.
But he didn't. Best Legend gave me was something about Thor power, without explaining how that qualified for Real Daddy status.
I was banned for wanting elaboration, for actually explaining and not just saying 'Real Daddy is X' and 'is more known for y'. I've been a troper since 2011 and have done a lot of edits and expansions to the site, with a determination to do at leat an edit for a day for a good long while now. I am not a simple argument troll, I simply seek quality edits.
edited 25th May '18 2:08:20 PM by KrspaceT
I was wondering if I would be able to edit again? And I'll make sure my grammar and spelling is more accurate this time. And I'll also take care to make the examples I end up listing both more accurate and exact.
Should it be brought up that an edit conflict was present, I would like to state that I did in fact offer my concerns repeatably on the discussion page for the linked page. I am unable to provide quote srom it due to the edit ban (seriously, why can't I do that? Why not just have me not be able to use the post button instead of the entire page being lobbed off but I offered my concerns repeatably and gave examples of what would fix it. It was not heeded.
Incinerate! ONE HUNDRED PERCENT!!
Am I permanently banned from the forums? Can't I do anything to solve this?
Growing up, it's like a civil war, don't turn away, it's something you can't ignore...
Incinerate! ONE HUNDRED PERCENT!!
I am banned from editing my own posts even here, so I'll have to double post.
I am posting here because these are the directions the site have pointed me.
Growing up, it's like a civil war, don't turn away, it's something you can't ignore...
Incinerate! ONE HUNDRED PERCENT!!
What do I have to do to solve this situation here? Isn't anyone gonna answer me?
Growing up, it's like a civil war, don't turn away, it's something you can't ignore...
A wandering user
Incinerate! ONE HUNDRED PERCENT!!
I recognize I was too rude. But I am afraid of not keeping a promise of rein myself down, so what do I do?
Growing up, it's like a civil war, don't turn away, it's something you can't ignore...
Incinerate! ONE HUNDRED PERCENT!!
I am willing to rein myself down.
And god, please allow me to edit posts in this thread if I'm banned, because it sounds like I'm spamming.
Growing up, it's like a civil war, don't turn away, it's something you can't ignore...
Incinerate! ONE HUNDRED PERCENT!!
~Saveelich: Not only were you edit warring on YMMV.Solo, but you ignored warnings about it and got snippy with people. I know emotions tend to run high around popular franchises like Star Wars, but if you can't keep a cool head, you need to step away. Whether other parties were also suspended is not relevant to your case.
~Ea4g: You were edit warring on Krypton over the trope Heel–Faith Turn. Looking at the content of the example you were trying to add, it's written in a speculative manner, which we don't permit, and it's almost entirely spoiler tagged, which is something we discourage.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"