Because he wants to keep the characterizations and just doesn't care about relatively minor details of the mechanics?
I dunno if they're minor. Depends on how much you focus on it, really.
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimariNot that I'm a shining example of Nanoha fans or anything, but I'd completely forgotten about the Wolks being bound to Hayate rather than the book. Even so, it wouldn't particularly bug me if that weren't the case, even without a justification. Declaration of AU solves everything.
... Besides bad writing.
Unless you're writting wrong on purpose. Trollfic Declaration solves everything.
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimariExcept when it doesn't.
Nous restons ici.I'd like to see somebody try to write (preferrably well) a crossover between the Lyrical Nanoha franchise (and possibly Triangle Heart 3, or elements thereof) with the Persona series.
Does that sound like a good idea to you guys? Because it sure did to me!
The thought that Nanoha could cause more collateral damage by shooting herself in the head instead of shooting something else amuses me.
So does that mean Nanoha's persona would start out with Megido instead of something like Agi or Garu?
Hyped for Hyperdimension Neptunia V 2Weirdly enough I had Chrono say something to that effect in a completely unrelated context just now.
Nous restons ici.She'd start with Megido and a magic stat of around 45 at LV 1, as well as the support ability Growth 3, before quickly learning Megidolaon, Armageddon (which would normally be a Fusion Spell), Infinite Endure, and by LV 40 she gets the ultimate Almighty spell, Befriend, which non-lethally nukes an area the size of Jupiter.
And yes, I mean the planet.
We can do better than that. Nanoha with Shin Megami Tensei. With her of course, being Neutral.
edited 24th Sep '12 8:01:32 PM by Justin_Brett
I gotta wonder what skills Hayate's Persona would have. I reckon that it probably would start out with Hama, Mudo, and/or Megido-type spells.
I have no played that series yet so I can't contribute to that. Sorry.
All of Hayates spells would be area of effect with no single target spells as well as Mind Charge.
But screw Personas, we want drama. What kind of shadow versions of themselves do you think the Nanoha cast would make if they were thrown into a tv?
The way I played it regarding the Wolkenritter was that the Tome's regenerator systems were badly damaged by Reinforce deleting herself and the self-defence program but not destroyed outright, much like how Rein got downgraded to Reinforce Zwei. Consequently, when Signum has to make use of the resurrection function due to a clip of railgun rounds at close range, it works... but it takes half an hour, gives her mild but permanent neural damage, and there's the strong implication that whoever tries it next time won't be so lucky.
What's precedent ever done for us?At the moment, I'm leaning towards Hayate having figured out how to repair the Book, but not intending to do it because she wants the Wolkenritter to have access to as normal a life as possible. In the actual event she repairs it and ties them to the book because dying when she's still in her teens is considerably less normal for them than the alternative.
There's also a non-zero possibility the defense program would also be repaired in the process.
Nous restons ici.The only Persona game I've played is 3, so I can't comment on Shadows.
,I recommend checking out the Nanoha PSP games you two, Nano.
I have. I'm simply uninterested in dealing in that continuity.
I already wrote another story where it's hypothesized that the Wolkenritter can still connect to the book, the programming and ports are still there, but Reinforce and Hayate deliberately rewired the Wolkenritter's programs instead. (And you can read all about it if you want.) When another, damaged group of Wolkenritter is encountered, they attempt to connect to the Book; the Book responds to what it perceives as an attempt to corrupt its programming by forcibly reconnecting the 'real' Wolkenritter, which locks out the damaged ones by occupying their access points.
edited 25th Sep '12 11:24:01 AM by Night
Nous restons ici.The Wolkenritter are no longer tied to the book. They are, in a sense, separate people now (albeit magical beings). Even if Hayate died now, nothing would happen, other than everyone being sad. Hayate, due to being "in tune" with them, due to data Reinforce left in her linker core (which is how she created Rein Zwei), can send the wolkies extra magic if needed, though.
If you wanted to kill Hayate in order to transfer the book, you'd have to do it during A's itself. That's where your AU would have to start.
One particular option, especially if you wanted to do this to an older Chrono, is to recall Graham's plan. He wanted to freeze the book with its master, remember? But Chrono pointed out that someone would eventually come along to free the book. So your option would be to write things such that Graham's plan succeeds, and Hayate is frozen with the book. Cut to a few years later, someone (perhaps Jail) finds Hayate and the book, frees them only to have Hayate go berserk and die. Cue heartwrenching scene, because Nanoha, Chrono and the rest had been searching for some way to free her of it, and Hayate regrets inflicting this on someone else. Chrono, knowing what it entails, steps up and says he'd take on the burden. Hayate transfers it to him.
That's about the only way I can see this fitting into some type of canon, with respect to an AU.
"I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Attributed to VoltaireToo old to make it work; he'd be married by then in all likelihood. Chrono being male, unattached, seventeen, and having effective total control over a pair of very attractive women creates tension and opportunities to explore character from both sides.
Also spending the better part of decade, if not more, with that specific goal in mind for their lives would result in serious and unpredictable alterations to the characters and behavior of Nanoha/Fate/Chrono. It might mean he doesn't get married, but at the same time it means a lot of other things that would be troublesome to sort out and transcribe effectively. (To say nothing of Nanoha's now strongly reinforced martyr complex/drive to take responsibility meaning she would probably jump in ahead of him.)
edited 26th Sep '12 6:39:02 AM by Night
Nous restons ici.I'm already trying to imagine Chrono in that situation with Signum and Shamal, and I'm laughing my ass off.
Actually, it's best to let the mechanics of how something works untouched unless you're absolutely certain your system is superior. In which point... why the hell aren't you writing your own series if you can do better?
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari